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Old 06-04-2012, 08:46 AM
 
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You guys watch Miss USA? Wow.
No....I read the news....

Give it a shot.
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:54 AM
 
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Absolutely correct!! No beauty contestant would dare say anything "hateful". PC all the way!!!
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Exactly!! That's my point!!
I am not familiar with pageant rules...but if she were to say she wasn't OK with transgenders/transexuals competing... Could she have been stripped of her crown?
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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How many straight transgenders do you know???
Define "straight transgender" please. Here are two examples of transgendered women who transitioned from male to female:

Stu Rasmussen - Twice elected mayor (once as a man, once as a women) of a small Oregon logging town - Stu Rasmussen for Mayor - Reality Check
Phyllis Randolph Frye - Texas Judge - Phyllis Randolph Frye - Attorney at Law, Houston, Texas

Both had wives before their transition, and both are still married to their wives. Is that what you mean by "straight transgender"? If so, there are many. I've met many transgendered people. I've met male-to-females who date women and others who date men. I've met female-to-males who date men and others who date women. I've met bisexual transgendered people.

And lastly, many of the transgendered are in fact intersex - they are biologically neither male or female. Often times it doesn't make sense to me to apply the terms "gay" or "straight" to the transgendered.
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:19 AM
 
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She told them what they wanted to hear is all.
The more they push the less they will be accepted IMO.
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:31 AM
 
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Define "straight transgender" please. Here are two examples of transgendered women who transitioned from male to female:

Stu Rasmussen - Twice elected mayor (once as a man, once as a women) of a small Oregon logging town - Stu Rasmussen for Mayor - Reality Check
Phyllis Randolph Frye - Texas Judge - Phyllis Randolph Frye - Attorney at Law, Houston, Texas

Both had wives before their transition, and both are still married to their wives. Is that what you mean by "straight transgender"? If so, there are many. I've met many transgendered people. I've met male-to-females who date women and others who date men. I've met female-to-males who date men and others who date women. I've met bisexual transgendered people.

And lastly, many of the transgendered are in fact intersex - they are biologically neither male or female. Often times it doesn't make sense to me to apply the terms "gay" or "straight" to the transgendered.
Skip all the ambiguous pseudo-science and semantics....

You've met a lot of bizarre characters....you should invite me to your portal so I can witness this phenomenon...

Or maybe tons of people are deeply depraved in the recesses of their own minds and these folks feel overwhelming levels of comfort around you.. *shrugs*
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:36 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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of course Miss USA is ok with it though.. What is she really going to say? She will be burned at the stake if she says anything else.
she didn't want to be prejeaned.
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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Skip all the ambiguous pseudo-science and semantics....

You've met a lot of bizarre characters....you should invite me to your portal so I can witness this phenomenon...

Or maybe tons of people are deeply depraved in the recesses of their own minds and these folks feel overwhelming levels of comfort around you.. *shrugs*
Here's some more pseudo-science and semantics for you:

Klinefelter's syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

XX male syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Androgen insensitivity syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Congenital adrenal hyperplasia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Male-to-Female Transsexuals Have Female Neuron Numbers in a Limbic Nucleus

Transsexual differences caught on brain scan - life - 26 January 2011 - New Scientist

Gender's not as binary as you think but don't let REAL SCIENCE dissuade you from your hatred.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:12 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Just because someone disagrees with something, when did that start equating to hate??
When they disagreed with a liberal idea the leftist fanatics wanted to push.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:14 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I don't think transgenders are gay because they were just born with the wrong plumbing according to the experts.
And this is different from homosexuality how?
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:15 AM
 
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Skip all the ambiguous pseudo-science and semantics....

You've met a lot of bizarre characters....you should invite me to your portal so I can witness this phenomenon...

Or maybe tons of people are deeply depraved in the recesses of their own minds and these folks feel overwhelming levels of comfort around you.. *shrugs*
As usual, you just deflect, vilify people you don't understand, and refuse to actually engage in discussing the topic. I answered your questions as directly and as best as I can. Why can't you return the same courtesy?

Perhaps we can try this again. Again, what do you mean by "straight transgendered"? Do the two people I discussed fall under that category? Do you have any actual substantive critiques of my comments?
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