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Typical lying and back paddling from Obama! And people still beleive in him.
It IS a tax. Period. If it is not, then it is unconstitutional according to the recent decision. Obamas lawyer made a case for it to be a tax and that is why it was upheld. Now the liar in chief wants to put words in the mouths of the justices to serve his own purposes and keep the truth from the American people once again. Unbelievable!
And how many Americans know the details of the decision..that the WH argued it was a tax ?
All they know is that it passed. The WH is now back to saying it's not a tax because that is what they said in the past. The lemmings heard this argument once before and will not pay attention.
I was at lunch yesterday with 4 coworkers. These are middle class/upper middle class white collar workers with college degrees in Engineering. You would think these would be "informed" people wouldn't you ? Not a one knew the details of the Supreme Court ruling. When I told them, they shrugged and then commented that I shouldn't spend so much time reading about politics.
There used to be two other folks at work that kept up with politics and we used to have some good, lively debates without getting personal about it. Sadly those 2 got layed off last year
It wasnt a tax to begin with. Obama's lawyer even bringing that up should have resulted in it being tossed out during oral arguments. And no way should Roberts been allowed to change the wording of the law, because it was NOT written as a tax.
Of course it was a tax. Anyone who can't see the games Obama was trying to play are just plain not too bright.
I agree Roberts should not have been allowed to change it from a penalty to a tax, but I think he has something up his sleeve We, the People (and most of the media) hasn't yet figured out.
See video in this thread. Now that it's been ruled a tax, it's invalid because it didn't originate in the house.
Of course it was a tax. Anyone who can't see the games Obama was trying to play are just plain not too bright.
I agree Roberts should not have been allowed to change it from a penalty to a tax, but I think he has something up his sleeve We, the People (and most of the media) hasn't yet figured out.
See video in this thread. Now that it's been ruled a tax, it's invalid because it didn't originate in the house.
Well, those 2% must not have a lot of money because they lowered the penalty to make it "affordable".
That's who it will really hit. Most have insurance but just high premiums. They will keep their insurance because the government will now subsidize them for a substantial portion of it.
That's not neccessarily true. Those who would face a penalty are those with the ability to obtain insurance but refuse to get it. I've read that the penalty would be between $600-$2000 per year depending on financial circumstances. Those figures are both less than the cost of health insurance. And, those penalized (free riders) will still be able to walk into an ER and receive service. Again, this is 2% of the population.
I guess you're good with people not contributing their fair share. Listen to Mitt explain it very well.
Of course it was a tax. Anyone who can't see the games Obama was trying to play are just plain not too bright.
I agree Roberts should not have been allowed to change it from a penalty to a tax, but I think he has something up his sleeve We, the People (and most of the media) hasn't yet figured out.
See video in this thread. Now that it's been ruled a tax, it's invalid because it didn't originate in the house.
How is something a tax if only 2% percent of the population will be effected by it? And, they don't have to be effected by it, it's their choice. As I continue to state, if I choose to park in a handicap sopt and get a ticket, that's a penalty not a tax.
As this passed this is everyone paying for that parking spot and paying whether you want to park there or not and if you decide not to pay for parking there you will be taxed.
That's not neccessarily true. Those who would face a penalty are those with the ability to obtain insurance but refuse to get it. I've read that the penalty would be between $600-$2000 per year depending on financial circumstances. Those figures are both less than the cost of health insurance. And, those penalized (free riders) will still be able to walk into an ER and receive service. Again, this is 2% of the population.
I guess you're good with people not contributing their fair share. Listen to Mitt explain it very well.
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Originally Posted by stayinformed40 "Typical lying and back paddling from Obama! And people still believe in him.
It IS a tax. Period. If it is not, then it is unconstitutional according to the recent decision. Obamas lawyer made a case for it to be a tax and that is why it was upheld. Now the liar in chief wants to put words in the mouths of the justices to serve his own purposes and keep the truth from the American people once again. Unbelievable!"
Allowable only because it is a tax but the substance of it is utterly unconstitutional.
The defenders of it still stand up for it though fully knowing that Constitutionally speaking it stinks to high heaven.
That boils down to doing what you want to in spite of it know being the right thing.
In other words- No Rule of Law is the call for the day!
Why even administer an Oath of Office swearing to uphold and defend the Constitution if ideas being blown about as if by the wind has become the norm for the path of our Country?
The White house tells the court it's not a PENALTY, so the Commerce clause doesn't apply. Well, the ONLY way that can be true, is if it's a tax, so the Supreme court lets stand Obamacare under the guise that the penalty is actually a TAX.
it is a tax, not a penalty. obama just did not like getting caught in a lie on national tv and cant believe that he got caught with his pants down around his ankles.
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You Clown!!!
What part of that do you not understand? Oh, FOX, now I see why there is some confusion.
