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Old 07-13-2012, 03:18 PM
 
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Assuming that the woman had consensual sexual relations - she decided to have the baby when she got undressed.

We aren't talking about the woman's body - we are discussing the body of a new human life.
We are discussing a fetus that has no possibility of survival outside of a woman. When it can survive outside of the womb, then it has a life.

I personally think that abortion before 20 weeks is ok, if that is what the woman chooses.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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We are discussing a fetus that has no possibility of survival outside of a woman. When it can survive outside of the womb, then it has a life.

I personally think that abortion before 20 weeks is ok, if that is what the woman chooses.
Once the baby is outside the womb it also has no chance of survival if it is left alone.

That doesn't sound like a definition of "viable" to me - nor a good argument for devaluing the life just because it is in a womb.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:21 PM
 
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If a woman wants to prevent bringing a baby into this world...she will...

You cannot blame this on the attack on planned parenthood..
Yes, women will murder the innocent human life growing in the womb for their own self-interest. Sickening.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Default Does Mississippi have a moral responsibility to set up a comprehensive social program for children and their mothers?

My thinking is that if Mississippi is successful in removing all legal abortion providers in the state, then they have removed a significant responsibility from the shoulders of parents who don't want their children or who can't afford to take care of them.

Regardless of your position on the responsibility of getting pregnant, by removing the mother's choice to abort, the state has committed itself to ensure the safety, health, and prosperity of that child.

Anything less would be sadistic.

At the same time, they are also forcing families to bear the cost of new life, regardless of the families ability to financially support that new life. So whatever shortfall of income that allows the family to adequately raise & support the child.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:29 PM
 
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Once the baby is outside the womb it also has no chance of survival if it is left alone.

That doesn't sound like a definition of "viable" to me - nor a good argument for devaluing the life just because it is in a womb.
Once outside, other people can care for it, if the mother chooses not to.
Newborns are in high demand in the adoption business.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:34 PM
 
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I'm sure they are very much aware of this. But they are trying to do what they are able to do.

If they succeed in making Mississipi abortion-free, that's only 49 states left to go.
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Why do you think Mississippi, or any place on earth, would be abortion free?

Where has it ever been abortion free?


How is that accomplished?

It's been proven that when abortion is illegal, abortions still take place....


Please explain "abortion free".

Why can't they ever answer....???? guess they have no answer


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Safe does not make it right.

Should we supply get away cars for bank robbers?""


No, because robbing a bank is wrong, abortion isn't.


"""I don't believe it's an easy decision but it sure is a wrong one."""


So don't have an abortion.





"""Killing is killing and there is nothing that can make that fact go away and even sugar coated it's still killing."""


No, it isn't killing ....and besides Anti-Choice folks have NO problem sending our military to OTHER COUNTRIES to blow up babies and pregnant women so the Anti-Choicers can feel safe....THAY HAVE SAID SO!



"""All that changes nothing.

On one hand there is the claimed "woman's right", on the other the life of a child.

Makes a "woman's right" seem petty & most selfish by comparison.
Women's rights come first....
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:38 PM
 
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We are discussing a fetus that has no possibility of survival outside of a woman. When it can survive outside of the womb, then it has a life.

I personally think that abortion before 20 weeks is ok, if that is what the woman chooses.
Life does not begin outside the womb.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Abortion stops a beating heart.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:41 PM
 
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Life does not begin outside the womb.
Viable life does, and personhood does.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I just ate a hard boiled egg (chicken - not human)!

Scrambled human eggs anyone?
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