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Is Bloomberg forcing people to live in these spaces? No. Are there people that will jump on the opportunity to live in Manhatttan and make the choice to live in these small units? Yes.
I see no problem here.
No problem at all if you are also a supporter of Agenda 21 or ICLEI.
Good! The more people he can pack into NY who are willing to live there means less of them in the rest of the country. It would be great if we could get about 60% of the voters in Seattle to move there.
What's funny is, if the laws currently said it was OK to build 300 sq ft apts, or heck, even 200 sq ft and Bloomberg was trying to pass a law that said the minimum size had to be 400 sq ft, the conservatives here would be flipping out about it. It's a pretty good illustration about how rampant hyper-partisanship is on C-D.
That IS the law in most places in the USA. About 80% of places require minimum square footage and will not allow you to build anything less than that. There are not many places you could build 300 sq ft apartments or condos. It does not matter whether the place is liberal or conservative.
Why, of course, they should live in Agenda 21 type of units. You do know about those, don't you?
Yeah, sure, lets ban all multi-unit housing while we're at it. It reeks of Agenda 21!! Everyone should live in a 3000 sq ft McMansion on 5 acres because that is your ideal.
See how fast those units get snatched up and then try to tell me how people are being forced there against their will. While you're at it, show me where any McMansion owner is being forced off of their property by Agenda 21. And please don't bother with the lawbreakers, the "sign the papers, never make a payment" foreclosees or worse yet, the idiots who got interest only mortgages and got slammed by balloon payments. Can't blame the UN for those morons.
That IS the law in most places in the USA. About 80% of places require minimum square footage and will not allow you to build anything less than that. There are not many places you could build 300 sq ft apartments or condos. It does not matter whether the place is liberal or conservative.
Point taken, but I was using a hypothetical to illustrate my point.
Yeah, it's designed to deal with the dire shortage of affordable housing on Manhattan. Basically, smaller is cheaper ergo more low to medium income people can afford it. It's not an attempt, as some loonies have claimed in this thread, to force people into houses they don't want and instead it is simply to give people another option, one which they can actually afford yet still allow them to live in Manhattan.
This isn't a new trend either as places like Hong Kong, Tokyo, and Singapore have been doing this for decades. It allows people who don't make much money but who are vital to the city (like the waiters, the cooks, the house keepers, the college students, the young people, the folks working at the stores in the mall, the kid selling you tickets to the movies, etc...) to actually be able to live in the city they work in. That means it will be easier to find people willing to work those low income jobs in the city so people who are better off actually end up paying lower prices. Such long term city planning is actually good for the city's economic health and vitality.
Mayor Bloomberg launches contest to stir development of tiny 300-square-foot apartments for singles
Larger than a jail cell, but smaller than mobile home, ministudios will reflect city's changing demographics. They'll be big enough for bathroom, kitchen, sleeping and dining areas
LOL! I watched a show not too long ago about how imigrants during the early 1900's lived in houses/apts in NY that were about that size! only it was entire families living there!
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Would you believe that if we all lived like Manhattanites the world population could fit into the state of Texas? But we're actually doing the opposite. In the 1950s, the first suburban homes were a cozy 750 square feet. Today, they've ballooned to more than 2,500 square feet. But somehow we're still running out of space. One third of Americans hoard so much "stuff" that they can't even fit their cars into their garage, and the combined acreage of storage units in America is larger than the state of Pennsylvania. How does the size of our homes and the stuff we fill them with change the landscape of our country?
Of course Bloomberg will still live in his palatial abodes. This is always the way with those who want to control how others live.
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Bloomburg sure is a nanny mayor. I think hes nuts.
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Well, at least those illegal Big Gulp cups won't be taking up unneccesary room in Nanny Bloomberg's tiny flats for the 99%.
Aww, give NYC's control freak micro-manager in chief a break. The air can get very thin in the penthouse suite of his very tall ivory tower.
God, you guys are amazing at finding the most petty things to ***** about. But what can you expect when a group says that the First Lady advocating healthier food for kids is some tyrannical oppression. Healthier eating doing good for our bodies has only been the across the board consensus since...well, ever...
Yeah, sure, lets ban all multi-unit housing while we're at it. It reeks of Agenda 21!! Everyone should live in a 3000 sq ft McMansion on 5 acres because that is your ideal.
See how fast those units get snatched up and then try to tell me how people are being forced there against their will. While you're at it, show me where any McMansion owner is being forced off of their property by Agenda 21. And please don't bother with the lawbreakers, the "sign the papers, never make a payment" foreclosees or worse yet, the idiots who got interest only mortgages and got slammed by balloon payments. Can't blame the UN for those morons.
Anyone babbling about "Agenda 21" can rightly be automatically dismissed as a crack pot loon in a tin foil hat.
A couple of posters mentioned Agenda 21 earlier, one at 10:02 last night and the second one at about midnight. I guess, like normal, Ghosts don't read whole threads but enjoy it when they jump in.
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