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Old 07-29-2012, 07:53 AM
 
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He probably thinks you're part of the "conspiracy" regarding this case that people here at CD are building up in their heads.
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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They is those investigating and prosecution etc...

You are talking a 2D cartoon absolute. How do you think any centrally controlled system works? Be it an organization, corporation, govt etc...

Sealing a case is a form of control is it not? Chain of command? Directions etc... You steer who says and sees what.

What "they" do is tell people not to talk to people etc.., then what is allowed out is very controlled.
Stories all over america about obama cutting his fl visit short and rushing back. You think this isn't extremely high profile?

The "dormant schizophrenia" is something being thrown out around some stories. Really based on nothing.

The misquote is the supposed statement the mom made saying "they have the right person". It has been reported that is not what she said. However, the first supposed quote is what is being plastered everywhere. No way of knowing if she said it at all.

The weird part is the same description that the kid is in isolation with a mask on because he is spitting at guards. The isolation thing isn't the unusual part.

Sounds completely made up. Why just grab that "news" and plaster it everywhere?
Please post some verification about "isolation with a mask on". I have never heard that.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:14 AM
 
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Videos? There are no videos. There never were any videos. How could you question such a thing?
Oh come on, how can you be so out of touch with reality? This ain't 1979 you know?. You cannot enter a convenience store that doesn't have surveillance cameras. Pick your nose in the grocery store parking lot ... it's on tape. That theatre has surveillance cameras.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Auburn, AL
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Because it's common for the media to omit "minor" details in the story so as to have a clear storyline of "A" to "B" (cause to effect).
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:46 AM
 
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Default Member of Congress: Investigate misuse of Psychotronic (mind control) weapons

Some people believe that James Holmes may have found out about a modern day MKULTRA program while studying at the University of Colorado and feeling uncomfortable with the knowledge wanted to bow out or perhaps maybe even blow the whistle, and that's why he may have been set up.

Consider that so many people are claiming to be victims of government controlled Psychotronic (mind control) weapons that there's even a change.org petition:

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There are individuals in this country, victims of Psychotronic (or Mind Control, Electronic, Electromagnetic, Directed Energy, Neurological, Non-lethal) Weapons, who are being targeted unjustly or used as human subjects in experiments without their informed consent. Victims of mind/body control detail the most extreme and totalitarian violations of human rights in human history. Criminals may implant people with microchips or nanomaterials and place them under continuous surveillance. They monitor the human brain, continuously alter consciousness and behavior, directly assault and torture mind and bodies of the human subjects.
These are some of the symptoms that targeted individuals may experience:
a). Microwave hearing, torture with loud noise.
b). Visual hallucinations, artificial dreams.
c). Reading thoughts, retrieving memories.
d). Manipulation of thoughts, will, emotions, desires and perceptions.
e). Manipulation of human behavior: forced speech, involuntary body movements, transmission of specific commands into the subconscious, compulsory execution of these commands (i.e. the Manchurian Candidate effect).
f). Debilitation of mental acuity, loss of memory.
g). Sleep deprivation or uncontrollable sleep
h). Cramps, spasms, excruciating artificial pain in any part of the body, manipulation of body systems, including heart attacks and other serious medical conditions.
2. Some victims are subject to harassment and organized stalking in their communities, some victims receive false psychiatric diagnosis and in addition become victims of the systems, from which they are seeking help (medical institutions and law enforcement).
3. The misuse of such brain and body manipulation technology directly undermines the Constitution and Criminal law of the United States.
THEREFORE, your petitioners request that the Government would appoint an investigation in the United States to get to the bottom of these gross violations of human rights based upon the evidence collected by victims for many years. Goals of the investigation should include:
1). End of misuse of the mind control technologies
2). Compensation of involuntary human subjects for their damages
3). Immediate access to countermeasure protections and removal of any materials, implanted in involuntary human subjects, such as microchips or nanomaterials, that send signals to their mind and bodies
4). People responsible should be exposed and brought to justice for these unspeakable crimes against humanity.
Petition | Member of Congress: Investigate misuse of Psychotronic (mind control) weapons | Change.org

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Old 07-29-2012, 11:14 AM
 
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Please post some verification about "isolation with a mask on". I have never heard that.
Before insinuating that it's false, why can't you ever just do 5 minutes of personal research? There is such a thing as google, you know?

Aurora shooting suspect James Holmes jailed in solitary:

James Holmes Spitting At Correction Officers, Forcing Use of Spit Guard - ABC News

Several other reports have come in talking about how outraged the prison guards and staff are at the lack of remorse ... and how prisoners are all talking about killing Holmes if they can get a chance.

Then, to make matters that much more bazaar .... local news reporter claims that none of that is true, and that Holmes demeanor has not changed since his arrest, and remains calm and docile:

Sources: Holmes 'Spitting In Jail' Reports False - Denver News Story - KMGH Denver

Now, with the gag order, which includes the jail, it's unlikely that this extremely contradicting information will be reconciled.
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Houston
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What martin fiasco?
I believe he is referring to the case of Trayvon Martin, a 17 year old black youth killed in Florida. The case has been highly controversial and in the national media. Surprised you have not heard of it.
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:48 AM
 
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It's more likely the authorities don't want this case tried in the court of public opinion before they have a chance to gather all the facts and try it in a court room. Rumors and misinformation can taint a case. The simple fact is they are being smarter than the officials that took charge of the Casey Anthony and George Zimmerman cases. They also have a ton of evidence and debriefings to gather with 12 dead and dozens of injured victims plus Holmes' apartment to go over. I don't find any of the gag orders surrounding this case the least bit suspect. But then I'm not into conspiracy theories either. In due time the facts will all come out.
Extremely naive mindset. Fact is, within 24 hours, news and a photo of the wild eyed maniac with red hair responsible for the murders was being piped by satellite around the world ... Aborigines in the outback of Australia were getting the lone wolf gunman "story", with photos. So this whole idea of not tainting public opinion is mind numbingly asinine.

I swear, it's so frustrating that so many people share your perceptions and way of thinking ... so easily manipulated with nonsense and illogic. That's what is primarily responsible for so much corruption and misconduct, and the ability for authorities to literally "mold" public opinion into any form it chooses.

One of the greatest examples of this in modern times was the media/government HACK JOB done after the OKC bombing. Few people ... and I'd bet everything I own that this includes you, have no earthly idea of how bogus the official story of that event has been proven to be, from a thorough sanitizing of the news reports to government intimidation of the grand jury members ... to murdering witnesses, including an OKC police officer, who's battered and tortured body was found, and officially classified as a suicide.

I remember watching "live" news on that morning reporting that two much larger explosive devices were discovered INSIDE the building. The next day, those reports vanished ... and the new story was that there was only the truck bomb that exploded in the parking lot. The only news organization that refused to bend the truth like this was a local news station who maintained the original (truthful) story. So, the New York Times bought the station and fired its staff .... just an investment opportunity of course!

It never ceases to amaze and disgust me that there are so many people that think they are informed and intelligent, when the reality is, they are clueless to the facts, and incapable of formulating a single independent thought of their own ... evidenced by the ingrained response of "conspiracy theory" regarding any information that doesn't perfectly fit their "molded" perceptions.
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:51 AM
 
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I believe he is referring to the case of Trayvon Martin, a 17 year old black youth killed in Florida. The case has been highly controversial and in the national media. Surprised you have not heard of it.

Lincoln and Booth ??? JFK and Oswald ???? RFK and Sirhan Sirhan ???? Reagan and Hinckley ????? Who are all these people people keep talking about?
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Before insinuating that it's false, why can't you ever just do 5 minutes of personal research? There is such a thing as google, you know?

Aurora shooting suspect James Holmes jailed in solitary:

James Holmes Spitting At Correction Officers, Forcing Use of Spit Guard - ABC News

Several other reports have come in talking about how outraged the prison guards and staff are at the lack of remorse ... and how prisoners are all talking about killing Holmes if they can get a chance.

Then, to make matters that much more bazaar .... local news reporter claims that none of that is true, and that Holmes demeanor has not changed since his arrest, and remains calm and docile:

Sources: Holmes 'Spitting In Jail' Reports False - Denver News Story - KMGH Denver

Now, with the gag order, which includes the jail, it's unlikely that this extremely contradicting information will be reconciled.
A spit guard is not a "mask". More hyperbole from the conspiracists!

BTW, it is up to people making claims to verify them, not the other way around.
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