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Old 07-28-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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you really don't understand islam. Of course islam gets to tell it's people what they need to do.

Islam does not mean freedom, it means submission.
i don't care what they say. Christianity is submission too.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:41 AM
 
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obama was born a Muslim and will die a Muslim. Once you understand that (his words: "My Muslim faith") you understand who he really is. His time in the black theology church was for street cred and he kicked the pastor to the curb once he'd served his purpose.

But half the country is STUPID and voted for the POS the first time. It's no surprise they didn't have a clue what or who they were voting for. We see them daily on c-d spouting off nonsense thinking they're smarter than the rest of us.

They aren't.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:42 AM
 
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Also there is nothing anywhere that indicates Obama has ever renounced Islam. Certainly he would have to have done that in order to convert to another religion.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:42 AM
 
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If you know anything about Islam, you know that the child of a Muslim father is a Muslim and once a Muslim always a Muslim, it's death to those who commit apostacy. Obama was born into Islam -- and they haven't killed him for converting to something else which means he hasn't done that.
wow, such ignorance

BTW, Obama SR wasn't a Muslim. so Obama II wasn't born into Muslim or ISlam.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:43 AM
 
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Indonesia has a very liberal form of Islam.
I have a few Muslim colleagues, including two women, one from Indonesia and another from Malaysia. They both smoke and drink, wear 'regular' clothes.. and cheat by sneaking food during Ramadan.

Most Muslims I've met (and I've known quite a few) are not religious. My husband has several Muslim colleagues - one of whom is ultra-religious. The other Muslims can't stand him and are always making fun of him. They all work in an enormous open-plan office (IT). The religious guy Nasser put a "call to prayer" as his cell phone ringtone - which drove everybody crazy. One day, Nasser left his phone on his desk while his phone was ringing incessantly. Finally, one colleague - appropriately named Mohammed - screamed at him: "Nasser, answer your effing phone. God's on the line!".
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:44 AM
 
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obama was born a Muslim and will die a Muslim.
again, no he wasn't born a muslim. Obama sr wasn't a muslim.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:48 AM
 
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wow, such ignorance

BTW, Obama SR wasn't a Muslim. so Obama II wasn't born into Muslim or ISlam.
Yes he was, and why do you think Obama was sent to Islamic schools? His step father was also a Muslim.

Obama Sr could not have owned four wives if he had been a Christian. And there is also no evidence that he ever renounced Islam and if he had that would have meant death.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:52 AM
 
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Find the Islamic law that supports your statement. You cannot -- and you do not get to define Islam.

Islam does not make exceptions for those Muslims who now live in the USA.
*sigh* Listen, it doesn't matter what Islam says or how Islam defines a Muslim if one doesn't accept Islam as their religion.

What if Islam said everyone born into the town malamute was born in is a Muslim? Would that make you a Muslim if you don't accept Islam? Or I guess the better question is, would you even give a flying fig what Islamic law was? Would you start going to masjid? Would you do namaz? Or would you carry on being a Christian because that is what you accept as your faith?

No one gets to define your faith if you don't accept what they say or believe.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:52 AM
 
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Yes he was, and why do you think Obama was sent to Islamic schools? His step father was also a Muslim.

Obama Sr could not have owned four wives if he had been a Christian. And there is also no evidence that he ever renounced Islam and if he had that would have meant death.
Christianlty does nort forbid multiplle wives. Anyway, his father was a atheist.

BTW can you prove you are not a muslim?
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:54 AM
 
Location: California
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You literally can not be "born religious". It doesn't matter what you think or even what the religion says. Those are MADE UP RULES. Everyone is born a blank slate when it comes to religion and over the course of their lives people pick up things here and there that form the basis of whatever they believe when they die. Few remain stagnant, few being 100% on particular branch from day 1 to the day they die. And the more of a thinker you are the more you question all beliefs, and somethings you never do make a firm commitment because you realize it's impossible to know. Those are the smart ones.
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