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The whole debate about whether gays should or should not be able to get married shouldn't be placed in the hands of people to vote. Before my Christian posters chew me out for making this claim, I agree with the biblical definition of marriage, which is between a man and a woman. But with that said, the United States of America, as many Christians want to blindly believe is not a Christian country. Nor is it a country where any one's religious opinions should be the law of the land when it violates a person's civil rights. The fact that gay people can't get married is a violation if their civil rights, and propositions should not be placed on ballots for people to vote for or against it when eventually people for or against it challenge that same proposition. Eventually the US Supreme Court will rule on gay marriage anyway, and no matter what I or anyone thinks about it, it will become the law of the land---ending this whole debate at least on the ballot.
I agree it is a Civil rights issue. Did people get to vote whether blacks & whites or any other race should marry?
I appreciate your open mindedness in the face of an issue that may challenge your values (no sarcasm).
Agreed, but my values aren't being challenged at all. I do believe in the biblical definition of marriage, but I also agree with the fact that gays civil rights are being violated when us Christians or anyone against gay marriage have to vote on it. If I have to vote on it, I can't compromise my faith and vote yes on it. This is why I started this thread. We shouldn't be voting on a civil rights or Constitutional issue.
^ if my mind serves me correctly the US Constitution was written to protect the minority as well. Whether it be the rights of gays or women or blacks and such and such?
We shouldn't be voting on a civil rights or Constitutional issue.
In the end it is the people that decide these matters. If the majority of people oppose same sex marriage then there should not be same sex marriage. People wrote the Constitution and only the majority of the people can amend it. There is no "right" to marriage in the Constitution. Yes, we absolutely should be voting on these matters that so profoundly affect our society.
In the end it is the people that decide these matters. If the majority of people oppose same sex marriage then there should not be same sex marriage. People wrote the Constitution and only the majority of the people can amend it. There is no "right" to marriage in the Constitution. Yes, we absolutely should be voting on these matters that so profoundly affect our society.
Agreed, but how is gay marriage going to profoundly affect society? I think the gay lifestyle that has become open and some what tolerated, especially among people under age 40 has profoundly affected how that age group views it or deals with it. Didn't the moral majority once think that Rock and Roll should have been banned because of how it would profoundly affect society? To me, we can't legislate morality. We can only punish the consequences of violating, what our society thinks is moral, which keeps changing as time passes.
The whole debate about whether gays should or should not be able to get married shouldn't be placed in the hands of people to vote. Before my Christian posters chew me out for making this claim, I agree with the biblical definition of marriage, which is between a man and a woman. But with that said, the United States of America, as many Christians want to blindly believe is not a Christian country. Nor is it a country where any one's religious opinions should be the law of the land when it violates a person's civil rights. The fact that gay people can't get married is a violation if their civil rights, and propositions should not be placed on ballots for people to vote for or against it when eventually people for or against it challenge that same proposition. Eventually the US Supreme Court will rule on gay marriage anyway, and no matter what I or anyone thinks about it, it will become the law of the land---ending this whole debate at least on the ballot.
It shouldn't be on the ballot because rights are not something you vote on, you just have them.
It shouldn't be on the ballot because rights are not something you vote on, you just have them.
Agreed
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