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Actualy my sugestion would be for them to come to their senses and realize that they are fighting the wrong battle. They want to argue about a word. If they were not so addament about " the word" they would already have what it is they should be fighting for. Makes them as foolish as the people they are fighting against.
There was a push for civil unions, but republicans, and the uber religious decided that was unacceptable.
There was a push for civil unions, but republicans, and the uber religious decided that was unacceptable.
Who cares ? Trying to win something that 50% of the population would support is easier then trying to win something that only 35% support. No those are not actual figures as I dont know what they are but its obvious what one has a better chance of winning.
It's not even a real issue of importance...This is a political and social fad..gone wild. No one can stop two people from living together...slapping names and tiles on unions bothers me...For instance- I spent almost 30 years with one woman and raised four children- They referred to my long lasting committed union with this woman as COMMON LAW...This was always an insult...That for instance a couple with no children who were formally married were more socially legitimate..and had more status...even if that union had no children and was bound to end up in the divorce courts in two years...
There is not much I hate- But I hated those in authority who would demean and devalue my family by regarding to marriage as COMMON LAW as if we were dumb peasants of old and my kids were bastards...
The way I looked at it - was if you had kids you were married under God..under nature and under the state....Those in unions gay or straight who do not have offspring may as well be put on the same level as high school kids in dating mode..
Finally to be honest- I have no respect for the breeding licence they call marriage- I have no respect for straight people who think a formal stamp of approval by church and state grants status...I have no respect for foolish gays who seek the approval of the state and church for what does not need to be approved by anyone other than God and the people involved.
Frankly - Marriage is akin to some farmer who has total control over his herd of cattle and brands them---and pairs them of for breeding- It is not a freedom it is a curse and the surrender of human atonomy.
Marriage of any kind is not an issue for you AMERICANS during these crucial times of dangerous financial flux-- Food- shelter - security- law and order....and declining national wealth are the real issues...This hate love emotional intrigue regarding marriage is a deflection from the real issues....and everyone is falling for it as you are plundered and destroyed - you bicker over what others are doing with their genitals.
It's not even a real issue of importance...This is a political and social fad..gone wild. No one can stop two people from living together...slapping names and tiles on unions bothers me...For instance- I spent almost 30 years with one woman and raised four children- They referred to my long lasting committed union with this woman as COMMON LAW...This was always an insult...That for instance a couple with no children who were formally married were more socially legitimate..and had more status...even if that union had no children and was bound to end up in the divorce courts in two years...
There is not much I hate- But I hated those in authority who would demean and devalue my family by regarding to marriage as COMMON LAW as if we were dumb peasants of old and my kids were bastards...
The way I looked at it - was if you had kids you were married under God..under nature and under the state....Those in unions gay or straight who do not have offspring may as well be put on the same level as high school kids in dating mode..
Finally to be honest- I have no respect for the breeding licence they call marriage- I have no respect for straight people who think a formal stamp of approval by church and state grants status...I have no respect for foolish gays who seek the approval of the state and church for what does not need to be approved by anyone other than God and the people involved.
Frankly - Marriage is akin to some farmer who has total control over his herd of cattle and brands them---and pairs them of for breeding- It is not a freedom it is a curse and the surrender of human atonomy.
Marriage of any kind is not an issue for you AMERICANS during these crucial times of dangerous financial flux-- Food- shelter - security- law and order....and declining national wealth are the real issues...This hate love emotional intrigue regarding marriage is a deflection from the real issues....and everyone is falling for it as you are plundered and destroyed - you bicker over what others are doing with their genitals.
A bunch of blather that is irrelevant as to whether the civil right of marriage (per the USSC) should be put to vote.
The whole debate about whether gays should or should not be able to get married shouldn't be placed in the hands of people to vote. Before my Christian posters chew me out for making this claim, I agree with the biblical definition of marriage, which is between a man and a woman. But with that said, the United States of America, as many Christians want to blindly believe is not a Christian country. Nor is it a country where any one's religious opinions should be the law of the land when it violates a person's civil rights. The fact that gay people can't get married is a violation if their civil rights, and propositions should not be placed on ballots for people to vote for or against it when eventually people for or against it challenge that same proposition. Eventually the US Supreme Court will rule on gay marriage anyway, and no matter what I or anyone thinks about it, it will become the law of the land---ending this whole debate at least on the ballot.
I agree that no one's rights should ever be up to a vote because they are rights not options.
And how is that working out for the gay marriage battle?
Right now, it's working its way through the judicial system, so the system is working as it was intended to.
That still doesn't mean that the civil right of marriage (per the USSC) should be put to vote.
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