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Old 08-28-2012, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Originally Posted by seahawkgirl View Post
I don't know why any Catholic would be at the DNC after obama has tried to take away their rights about birth control.
Do tell me where this happened.
Because it didn't.
Businesses are required to provide certain benefits.
If the catholic church wants to be part of the business world, they have to play by the rules of business.
No one stopped a church from doing anything.
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:52 PM
 
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That's your opinion but that's not what the brochure says.
The FACT is that the brochure has DNC on it.

Everything else is speculation. And it seems many do care as the Dems can't yell loud enough to distance this from the Party itself.
Turn your mind on for a minute. The statement from the brochure makes no sense. Let's evaluate it (notice I'm evaluating, not speculating). Here's the statement:

"BIMA has been authorized by the Democratic National Convention (DNC) to conduct Jumah prayer, host festivities and Islamically related functions."

Now some info:
This statement is about a series of events from August 31st - September 1st that are taking place in Charlotte. They take place in 3 locations: Marshall Park, A Hilton Hotel, and The Park Expo and Conference Center. None of these 3 places are associated with the DNC in any way I can find. Here are the events scheduled for Marshall Park during the DNC: Search Results - The Charlotte Observer : They include a DNC protest, a marijuana rally, a Doctors of America bike ride, etc. No DNC events at all. Here's the schedule of evens at the Park Expo center: The Park Expo and Conference Center : No DNC events at all (nothing at all before or during the DNC). I can't find anything to indicate that the DNC has rented out the Hilton where this group is having it's banquet on Friday night at 6PM.

Also consider that the DNC doesn't start until the morning of September 3rd - several days after this BIMA event ends. Also consider that no website, statement, or publication of the DNC mentions this BIMA event at all.

Now some thinking:
Why would BIMA, or anyone for that matter, need the authorization of anyone (other than the particular facilities), let alone the DNC, to hold a prayer service in a park, a cultural festival in an expo center, and a banquet in a Hilton Hotel - especially when the DNC has no connection to these facilities? Furthermore, why would they need any sort of authorization from the DNC to do it at a time when the DNC isn't even taking place? Also, if the DNC were partnering with BIMA to host this event as part of the DNC (despite it not occurring during the DNC), why wouldn't the DNC mention it anywhere or place it on their calendar and schedule of events like they do with all the other events associated with and authorized by the DNC?

This much alone is more than enough for any thinking person to realize this event is not part of the the DNC, but we can dig even further. Let's look at the main place where this BIMA event is being promoted.:

Charlotte in 2012: Upcoming Events

This is the website of the DNCC - the committee of Charlotte politicians and businessmen who bid for the DNC, and now they have it in Charlotte, are responsible for promoting it and making it profitable for the city (The DNCC is chaired by Duke Energy CEO Jim Rogers). They are not the DNC. As part of their promotion, they've compiled a list of "A variety of events leading up to and during the convention ... including official Charlotte in 2012 and Democratic National Convention Committee events listed as "Featured Events" and an exciting array of Convention-related events submitted from the community!"

In explaining the list, they further go on to state that "This events page is intended to give local residents and convention-goers a comprehensive look at convention week activities and should not be considered an endorsement of any particular event or group by the Charlotte in 2012 Convention Host Committee or the Democratic National Convention Committee (DNCC). Official convention events are denoted with the Charlotte in 2012 or DNCC logos. All other submissions are user generated."

The BIMA is not denoted as an event in anyway associated with the DNCC or the DNC. It is clearly categorized as an unaffiliated community event whose details were submitted to the DNCC and then promoted. It's just like these other unaffiliated community events being promoted by the DNCC:

•A Christian Gospel Brunch
•A College Football Tailgate party
•A Trip to the NASCAR Hall of Fame
•A music festival (CarolinaFest)
•A Film Festival
•Free Yoga classes in the park
•Charlotte Labor Day Festival (Matthews Alive!)
•A Happy Hour with the Mayor for members of the Young Republicans and Young Democrats
•The Grand Opening (renovated) of a Science Museum
•An Art Exhibit of Madeleine Albright's Jewelery where she'll be giving a speech entitled "Against the Grain: Wood in Contemporary Art, Craft, and Design"
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Dems, you should be defending this saying your party is behind these events and supports them as a show of tolerance for the Muslims here in the US. BIMA expects about 20K Muslims to attend..that's Obama votes right there.

Why are you all so rabid about this NOT being associated with the DNC ?

In the end..the Muslims decided to show up at the DNC convention and not the RNC convention.
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:00 PM
 
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Well, I am sure SourD and his fellow travelers will take this opportunity to re-evaluate the reliability of The Blaze as a source of information. That way, at least something good could come of this little piece of disinformation.
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:01 PM
 
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Well, I am sure SourD and his fellow travelers will take this opportunity to re-evaluate the reliability of The Blaze as a source of information. That way, at least something good could come of this little piece of disinformation.
The Blaze has lost any credibility it had. How can anyone take them serious. Either it's extremely sloppy journalism or willful lying.
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:01 PM
 
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Dems, you should be defending this saying your party is behind these events and supports them as a show of tolerance for the Muslims here in the US. BIMA expects about 20K Muslims to attend..that's Obama votes right there.
Why? It would be a lie. The Democratic Party is not behind these events. It may support them.
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:04 PM
 
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Dems, you should be defending this saying your party is behind these events and supports them as a show of tolerance for the Muslims here in the US. BIMA expects about 20K Muslims to attend..that's Obama votes right there.

Why are you all so rabid about this NOT being associated with the DNC ?

In the end..the Muslims decided to show up at the DNC convention and not the RNC convention.
It wouldn't bother me to have a Muslim group associated with the DNC. I have a handful of Muslim friends. I just ****ing hate liars - especially lying ideologues who do it to demonize others.
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:05 PM
 
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I wouldn't bother me to have a Muslim group associated with the DNC. I just ****ing hate liars - especially lying ideologues who do it to demonize others.
Worst kind of liar is a liar who continues to lie after they have been caught
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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Dems, you should be defending this saying your party is behind these events and supports them as a show of tolerance for the Muslims here in the US. BIMA expects about 20K Muslims to attend..that's Obama votes right there.

Why are you all so rabid about this NOT being associated with the DNC ?

In the end..the Muslims decided to show up at the DNC convention and not the RNC convention.
That's not really the issue. The poutrage manufacturers working for The Blaze are establishing a narrative where the Catholic Church is discriminated against and another faith - in this case, Islam - is being given preferential treatment by the DNC. As has been demonstrated, it's a lie. The accusation is intended to reflect on the DNC.

I don't think anyone is surprised that Muslims feel safer exercising their First Amendment rights in the company of Democrats.
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Gone
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The Blaze has lost any credibility it had. How can anyone take them serious. Either it's extremely sloppy journalism or willful lying.
Unfortunately no matter how many times people try and point this out to the right-leaning faithful they simply will not believe you, once gone over the edge, for some there is no way back to reality. Is what it is
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