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Old 09-07-2012, 03:28 PM
 
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The charge has already been made in the court of public opinion by the copyright holder. A simply apology on Fox's part is probably all that would be needed, though I would love to see REM sue just to make a point about copyright.
As an amateur lawyer in the court of public opinion, I think Fox shouldn't worry about it and just not play more of their songs just to be safe.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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As an amateur lawyer in the court of public opinion, I think Fox shouldn't worry about it and just not play more of their songs just to be safe.
Probably what will happen.


As an aside, REM was actually smart enough to hold onto their copyrights rather than sign them over to a recording company

Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PA0000541342 / 1991-07-31
Title: Losing my religion.
Appears in: Out of time. WB 9 26496-2, c1991. 1 compact disc
Publisher Number: WB 9 26496-2
Performer: Performed by REM.
Copyright Claimant: Night Garden Music
Date of Creation: 1991
Date of Publication: 1991-03-12
Authorship on Application: words & music: William T. Berry, Peter Lawrence Buck, Mike Mills & Michael Stipe.
Copyright Note: C.O. correspondence.
Names: Berry, William T.
Buck, Peter Lawrence
Mills, Mike
Stipe, Michael
REM
Night Garden Music

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Old 09-07-2012, 03:33 PM
 
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Probably what will happen.


As an aside, REM was actually smart enough to hold onto their copyrights rather than sign them over to a recording company

Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PA0000541342 / 1991-07-31
Title: Losing my religion.
Appears in: Out of time. WB 9 26496-2, c1991. 1 compact disc
Publisher Number: WB 9 26496-2
Performer: Performed by REM.
Copyright Claimant: Night Garden Music
Date of Creation: 1991
Date of Publication: 1991-03-12
Authorship on Application: words & music: William T. Berry, Peter Lawrence Buck, Mike Mills & Michael Stipe.
Copyright Note: C.O. correspondence.
Names: Berry, William T.
Buck, Peter Lawrence
Mills, Mike
Stipe, Michael
REM
Night Garden Music

WebVoyage Record View 1
Interesting. Many aren't that savvy.
For what it's worth, I like REM and RATM.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Interesting. Many aren't that savvy.
Especially back then!

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For what it's worth, I like REM and RATM.
REM more than RATM for me.

Well this turned into a pleasant thread.

Rage on, everyone!!!!
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:36 PM
 
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I think Obama settled that issue with his famous slogan "You did not build that"...so to the band "You did not own that"...
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Fiorina "Fury" 161
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The charge has already been made in the court of public opinion by the copyright holder. A simply apology on Fox's part is probably all that would be needed, though I would love to see REM sue just to make a point about copyright.
Wow, if I knew ahead of time that all I would get is an "apology-on-the-wrist" and not jail time and mountains of fines, then you bet I'd be violating copyright...left and right. As it stands, I stand by my earlier post to go with royalty-free works, as even those doing covers of popular songs need to have permission from the original artist, as I understand it.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:37 PM
 
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Virtually every time the right hijacks songs from artists, they are immediately slammed by the artist and served with cease and desist papers, and at the DNC is the latest case.
You mean the way Rush Limbaugh a few times a day uses the Pretender's song Ohio all during his show?

No, just so many are liberals that they get upset if non-libs use their songs.
Good news is this alerts non-libs to avoid buying their music or going to their concerts in some Indian casino again. Goes both ways.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Wow, if I knew ahead of time that all I would get is an "apology-on-the-wrist" and not jail time and mountains of fines, then you bet I'd be violating copyright...left and right.
It's interesting that the law now makes colleges and universities legally responsible for students who pirate music, movies, etc. Where I am at, the University monitors how students use the Internet, meaning how much data they are downloading, and charges students in student court if they infringing on the copyright of others.

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As it stands, i stand by my earlier post to go with royalty-free works, as even covers of popular songs need to get permission from the original artist, as I understand it.
Yes, definitely, but given the Copyright Extension Act, we would only be hearing REALLY OLD tunes at the RNC.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Cease and desist only works if the record label.....who holds rights to the music.....enforces the C&D.
Which is one of the biggest problems with the music industry.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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You mean the way Rush Limbaugh a few times a day uses the Pretender's song Ohio all during his show?
Undoubtedly, he is paying royalties to do so through ASCAP, BMI, or SESAC licenses.

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No, just so many are liberals that they get upset if non-libs use their songs.
Good news is this alerts non-libs to avoid buying their music or going to their concerts in some Indian casino again. Goes both ways.

Another conservative against property rights? What the heck is going on here?
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