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Any gay man or woman can marry someone of the opposite sex - so they already have equality.
The problem with only allowing opposite sex marriage is that it is discriminatory to EVERYONE. Any straight man or woman cannot marry someone of the same sex - the law is discriminatory based on sex.
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and guess what - love is not a requirement for marriage anyway.
Neither is the ability to reproduce, but you seem to be championing that as a reason why same-sex marriage shouldn't be allowed.
Not a "requirement," but it certainly is traditionally an incentive.
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Gays cannot make a family together.
Wrong. They can make a family together and many do by adoption or by biological children one or both have had from a previous relationship (my own brother shares a now grown son with an ex-wife who left him for a woman; she and her same sex partner have been together now for many years).
And, besides, what makes a family? Can't two people who love each other be considered a "family?" Many straight couples choose to not have children (or perhaps are unable to) and often think of themselves as a family, oftentimes including their beloved pets as part of their "family."
Who defines "family?" You?
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A home and life can be made whether married or not.
This is true.
As a twice divorced person, I tend to be somewhat cynical about the institution of marriage.
I have five sons and I have made it clear to each of them that I don't think marriage is a necessity. Only two of my boys have been married - my oldest has been married and is now divorced and he has full custody of his daughter and my middle son (23) has been married for two years. My second to the youngest son is in a committed live-in relationship with his girlfriend (they've been together five years).
I will never marry again.
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so what is the point in this idealistic piece of paper?
Nothing (from my cynical point of view). But it should not be denied to those couples, straight or gay, who want it. It should certainly not be available to one segment of our society (straight) while being denied to another (gay).
Any gay man or woman can marry someone of the opposite sex - so they already have equality.
Um what? How is that equality if they can't marry someone of the same sex? That just reeks of illogical fallacy. You're toting the 'separate but equal' line here. That doesn't work and is unconstitutional.
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and guess what - love is not a requirement for marriage anyway.
True. Arranged marriages still take place in this modern day and age.
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So the tired old whine from the SSM crowd of 'gays should be allowed to marry the person they love' is just a completely moot point.
Yet the detractors say it a lot to. I honestly have no idea what makes you so much better than the same sex crowd. Are we not all Americans? Are we all not human beings? Why should you or I get exclusive rights and not a certain sect of people? Can you really explain that with logic and intellect?
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It has no value.
You're right - arguing against SSM and the ideas that homosexuals can continue to be treated as second class citizens does indeed have no value. You seem to lack them, actually. I feel sorry for you.
Any gay man or woman can marry someone of the opposite sex - so they already have equality.
and guess what - love is not a requirement for marriage anyway.
So the tired old whine from the SSM crowd of 'gays should be allowed to marry the person they love' is just a completely moot point.
It has no value.
That is the same old tired argument used against interracial marriage. Since a white could not marry a black person, it was considered equal to deny a black person the right to marry a white, neither could marry each other. That was declared unconstitutional and so will all bans on gay marriage and the result will be a huge roar from all the very same bigoted type of people that opposed and still oppose interracial marriage. They said allowing interracial marriage was going to be the down fall of the USA and that did not happen. The only way to progress is to go forward, otherwise we will just stagnate or rot. Are you married? Did you marry for convenience or out of love? And why would any gay person want to marry a straight person and what straight person would want to subject themselves to a married life that is a sham. Don't you think the couple should know in advance of either partners sexuality before they even get engaged? Would you want your daughter or sister to marry a gay man or your brother or son to marry a lesbian, just to keep the status quo? Other than the bible and its ancient moral codes, there is no real reason to deny marriage or its benefits to gays and lesbians. We are citizens of this country as much as you are and deserve to reap the same rewards. Denying us the same exact equal rights as you receive is outright discrimination and treats us as second class citizens with no just cause other than your biblical paranoia.
The problem with only allowing opposite sex marriage is that it is discriminatory to EVERYONE. Any straight man or woman cannot marry someone of the same sex - the law is discriminatory based on sex.
It is only discriminatory to those who do not fit the criteria, such as those of the same sex, family, persons already married, of legal age etc.
To start their own family together, by the natural method.
What about couples who are infertile?
Or who are past childbearing age?
If marriage is for couples to "start their own family together, by the natural method," then what about those couples who can't, or don't want to, start families (by your definition of "family")?
Should they be denied the right to marry?
Anyway, we've all been here before - the same tired, regurgitated bulls**t from those who want to deny fair and equal and legal rights to same sex couples.
I know there will always be bigots, but I do believe that the law will trump them and that some day marriage equality for everyone will be the norm.
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