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Old 03-03-2013, 12:46 PM
 
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** Notice the Sandy comment and my response was for another post.
** Not at all true - further proof of your living in a comfortable bubble of your own fabrication, with your own "facts" devised to justify what you prefer to believe. Exactly what the Fox media audience is all about.

The OWS movement was in opposition to the corporate socialist system previously mentioned, and conveniently ignored by you. Not hard to understand, since you have said, as an investor, you get income from these practices, and it was possibly your sugar daddies who were bailed out.
How about answering a pertinent question in your own words - why do you support and defend corporate welfare for prosperous bankers and think it is somehow good for America? Should be easy enough.
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Yes, my family made our current conditions of living after risking everything to start our first business, and then subsequent businesses. I make no apology for being successful at developing small businesses and making a profit from them.

As for my investments, they are long term, and I never said I had profitted from them,...only that I was a passive investor. Hopefully the will pay a dividend at some point in time, but nothing is guaranteed. So much for your "sugar daddy" comment.

Look,...you can whine about "corporate welfare" and bankers all you want. Personally, what the government allows to corporations and the banking industry doesn't affect me at all. You might want to address the BILLIONS in government waste, and ask our federal government why we send billions overseas to countries that hate our guts.

Unlike you Occupiers, I see the government as an equal partner to what you call corporate welfare and the banking industry. You Occupier whiners only attack one side of the same coin.

 
Old 03-03-2013, 01:13 PM
 
Location: USA
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Don't know the case in question, but there was probably clear evidence the shooting was in self defense. If a civilian shot someone, and it was clearly self defense, they likely wouldn't have been arrested either.
Not in this case. And it involved two officers I believe. Both off-duty. In this case, the city is upset that the off duty officer wasn't treated the same as any other suspected criminal. He should've been arrested, finger printed, and then a bond should've been set. In this case, he was questioned and then let go. There's also a lot of evidence the shooting was not in self defense. The man was shot in his car and was unarmed.

I was pretty surprised and proud to see so many people taking up for the man who was shot. It wasn't an issue of guilt, just equality under the law. You shouldn't be treated differently because your an officer.
 
Old 03-03-2013, 01:36 PM
 
Location: On the border of off the grid
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So you have been shown that OWS did indeed help out in Sandy. Since you didn't know this, it's proof positive that you're in some right-wing media bubble - Fox or otherwise, and had zero impetus to find out the truth.
Lots more fun to complain about the "heathen" lower classes eh!
I know, that Fox bubble is nice and comfy - best to just stay in there and get your daily dose of self-validation...

Sorry. The 3 articles posted only evidenced OWS "intentions" to collect donations. WHERE ARE THE ARTICLES SHOWING THE RESULTS????
 
Old 03-03-2013, 01:50 PM
 
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I'm starting this thread a year after the Occupy Wall Street protest sprang up around the country. The movement has taken a lot of turns since its beginning and I'm starting a new discussion about the effectiveness of Occupy Wall Street.

The grassroots movement was intended to raise awareness about Unethical Wall Street practices and how corporate greed was ruining American's way of life. Protest spread from New York all the way across the country to the West Coast and many major cities in a matter of months. The protest started in September, and by the end of the year had received national attention and taken over the political discussion in this country.

By the beginning of the year nearly all of the protest had ended and the movement was blacklisted from the mainstream media. Police brutality and corruption along with the enforcement of current laws and the passing of new laws ultimately lead to the end of the Occupy Movement. Protesters were arrested for peacefully protesting and many were held indefinitely in jails around the country. Truth and lies were intertwined about the movement whenever the mainstream media reported on incidents. The movement was strategically dismantled by the powers that be.



I'm arguing that we need the protesters back out in the streets. Whether its Occupy, Independents, bi-partisan groups, or a completely new movement,... we need people back in the streets. Politicians need to know that they can't get away with anything and the corporate elite in this country need to be reminded that money does not hold indefinite power over humans.

Its time for Americans to start doing something about the situation we're in instead of expecting the government to bail us out. Politicians need to know that no matter who gets elected, Americans will be holding everyone accountable.

Thoughts?
I think you need to go back to sleep.
 
Old 03-03-2013, 06:28 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Yes, my family made our current conditions of living after risking everything to start our first business, and then subsequent businesses. I make no apology for being successful at developing small businesses and making a profit from them.

As for my investments, they are long term, and I never said I had profitted from them,...only that I was a passive investor. Hopefully the will pay a dividend at some point in time, but nothing is guaranteed. So much for your "sugar daddy" comment.

Look,...you can whine about "corporate welfare" and bankers all you want. Personally, what the government allows to corporations and the banking industry doesn't affect me at all. You might want to address the BILLIONS in government waste, and ask our federal government why we send billions overseas to countries that hate our guts.

Unlike you Occupiers, I see the government as an equal partner to what you call corporate welfare and the banking industry. You Occupier whiners only attack one side of the same coin.
Are you taking note like you advise me to do? If you pay attention to my previous posts you see that I support small businesses.
You also admit to being an "equal partner" in socialism for the bankers - so there we have it! Most right-wingers won't admit to that.
 
Old 03-03-2013, 07:13 PM
 
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Are you taking note like you advise me to do? If you pay attention to my previous posts you see that I support small businesses.
You also admit to being an "equal partner" in socialism for the bankers - so there we have it! Most right-wingers won't admit to that.
Geez,...can you just not read,...or what?

You even bolded the line and still can't understand what you bolded.

Disgusting...........
 
Old 03-03-2013, 08:25 PM
 
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"Economic hellhole"?

Wait,...let me get out the hanky.

If you're looking for "sympathy",...try the dictionary.

Some people pull themselves out of their doldrums and have a successful life.

Then there are those of you who apparently are just losers.
Wow. I never thought sympathy would be something I could ever be accused of seeking. But merci beaucoup anyway!

I do find it hilarious how right wingers pump themselves up to seem what they're not. Is that what you're doing? Trying to seem something you are clearly not? Job creator indeed! Truth is, you'll go to your death having done little or nothing for mankind. I think what you do need to be doing is getting a job. Stop trying to diminish entire groups of people in an attempt to attribute some sort of worth to yourself. The worth is either there, or it isn't. From what you're telling everyone, I'd say it isn't.
 
Old 03-03-2013, 08:34 PM
 
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Are you taking note like you advise me to do? If you pay attention to my previous posts you see that I support small businesses.
You also admit to being an "equal partner" in socialism for the bankers - so there we have it! Most right-wingers won't admit to that.
Most won't admit it because it isn't true. Sorry I won't "admit" to supporting something I don't. I just have this strange idea that I know what my own opinions are better than you do.
 
Old 03-03-2013, 09:26 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Geez,...can you just not read,...or what?
You even bolded the line and still can't understand what you bolded.
Disgusting...........
Oops, you're right, I misread that sentence. Sorry. It is a partnership of government with the banks, but judging from conservative media, most conservatives support that. There was zero concern about this corporate incursion into government when Reagan and repubs started hands-off-the-banks trickle-down economics, which tanked the economy in 2008. The "outrage" started the day Obama took office. Why don't you address that.

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Most won't admit it because it isn't true. Sorry I won't "admit" to supporting something I don't. I just have this strange idea that I know what my own opinions are better than you do.
Well, of course you know your own opinions best, but that doesn't mean you're expressing them honestly. You know about trolls who just jerk people around, right?
You display the same views as conservative right-wing media, which is the voice of plutocracy. It's no wonder they hate OWS, the people who want to hold the banks accountable.
Question is, why do you, and other right-wingers, seem to think banks are above accountability?
The "voice of conservatism", Fox News, is a shill for corporate oligarchy, and it's where most righties get their news while at the same time rejecting "left-wing" criticism of corporate malfeasance.
The question is why you seem to share this view.
 
Old 03-04-2013, 06:20 AM
 
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Wow. I never thought sympathy would be something I could ever be accused of seeking. But merci beaucoup anyway!

I do find it hilarious how right wingers pump themselves up to seem what they're not. Is that what you're doing? Trying to seem something you are clearly not? Job creator indeed! Truth is, you'll go to your death having done little or nothing for mankind. I think what you do need to be doing is getting a job. Stop trying to diminish entire groups of people in an attempt to attribute some sort of worth to yourself. The worth is either there, or it isn't. From what you're telling everyone, I'd say it isn't.
Please note that the information about myself was requested by Gtowne, so get off your high horse. Unless you're psychic or have a crystal ball, you're just blathering about what you THINK someone else's life has included. Maybe you don't realize how stupid that makes you appear.

I don't have to "diminish" Occupy,....they did quite well in they regard without any help from anyone else. At one time they had some credibility, but that was lost quickly. It's not just MY opinion, it is the opinion of the majority of Americans.

Do some reading.
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