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Old 12-10-2012, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by xxbabeechick View Post
What are inconsistencies indicative of?

Lying.

And why would a person who had to kill someone in self-defense lie?

Because he didn't kill someone in self defense.


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Moon was convicted of the aggravated sexual assault of an El Paso woman five years before Esparza took office. The woman and another sexual assault victim identified him as their attacker, and he was convicted although he had a partially corroborated alibi.
The victims' testimony in the trial was bolstered by testimony from a DPS serologist, who said blood-typing analysis of semen found at the scene probably was from Moon.
Moon had DNA tests conducted on the evidence in the early 1990s, but they were inconclusive. However, DNA tests performed in November 2002 cleared him of the crime and showed that the real rapist was never apprehended.

Why did those two women lie?

Why would a legitimate rape victim lie?

Because they were not raped?

 
Old 12-10-2012, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Astoria, NY
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Why did those two women lie?

Why would a legitimate rape victim lie?
I'm assuming from what you posted that was an eyewitness match. These are notorious for being unreliable. In that case it wouldn't be a "lie", they were mistaken. I watched a documentary about a victim who identified a stranger who raped her as her uncle. You would figure a victim would know their uncle from a stranger but it was dark and she was mistaken. Her uncle was cleared with DNA evidence...like 15 years too late.

Doesn't relate at all to this case by any stretch of the imagination.
 
Old 12-10-2012, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Astoria, NY
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Face it, your boy Z needs to be held criminally responsible...there's no way out of this. He's not a traumatized rape victim mistaking his attacker for someone else, he knows enough to concoct a story to make him appear less culpable even if he keeps messing it up.
 
Old 12-10-2012, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by xxbabeechick View Post
Face it, your boy Z needs to be held criminally responsible...there's no way out of this. He's not a traumatized rape victim mistaking his attacker for someone else, he knows enough to concoct a story to make him appear less culpable even if he keeps messing it up.
My money is on a not guilty verdict. Zimmermen will lose in civil court. His gross stupidity was not illegal. It should be, but it ain't. Inconsistencies and even downright lies do not negate the high probably that Martin, though obviously provoked, initiated the physical confrontation.

What the jury is going to see is that the only injuries, besides the gunshot wound and a scraped knuckle, were all to Zimmerman.
 
Old 12-10-2012, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Astoria, NY
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Inconsistencies and even downright lies do not negate the high probably that Martin, though obviously provoked, initiated the physical confrontation.
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What fact are you basing the "high probability" that Martin initiated the physical confrontation? Your fantasies?

By his own words, Martin has started to run from him...Have you EVER heard of a situation that a pursued person running doubling back to initiate an assault? Does that make the least bit of sense to you?

If it doesn't make sense, it's not true. If it were true, your boy Z wouldn't have multiple accounts that do not jive with the chronology of the 911 call to make Trayvon out to be the aggressor. If Trayvon was the aggressor, he was the aggressor, no need to make up a tale.

So Zimmerman got injured in the attack he initiated? Perhaps even more than the person he initially aggressed...Zimmerman was a lot bigger than the 140 lb Martin but maybe Martin was quick and he was clumsy, the ultimate outcome is that he shot Martin with a gun.

In what universe is that self-defense? In what universe can you stalk/aggress an unarmed person then claim you had to shoot them in self-defense??? I'm afraid for my life around people like you. If it is not self-defense (which it clearly isn't)...he is guilty of a crime.
 
Old 12-10-2012, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Houston
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How did Zimmerman catch up with Martin? Do you really think Zimmerman was faster?

The fact is you can provoke someone into attacking you and then kill them in many states including Florida. You should be talking to your legislators if your state is one of those.
 
Old 12-10-2012, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Astoria, NY
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People claiming there's a cult of Trayvon Martin seem to be completely blinded to (or a part of) the large cult of George Zimmerman. Who are the people providing for this crazy person's defense? If you read this entire thread the most virulent of his supporters have spread WILD inaccuracies about Martin and the case...you have to ask yourself why do they want to believe these things? Why do they want to believe that a man who had a history of domestic violence/assault on benzos and stimulants who stalked an unarmed teen with a gun was in anyway in the right? This country has more problems than the nutty Zimmermans of this world.
 
Old 12-10-2012, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Astoria, NY
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How did Zimmerman catch up with Martin? Do you really think Zimmerman was faster?
Maybe he caught up to him, maybe Martin slowed down...any of those scenarios makes a gajillion times more sense than someone to switch up from running from someone to attacking them...."You know what, maybe it's not a good idea to run from this stranger pursuing me, maybe I should run back and punch them in the face instead?"

Get real.
 
Old 12-10-2012, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by xxbabeechick View Post
People claiming there's a cult of Trayvon Martin seem to be completely blinded to (or a part of) the large cult of George Zimmerman. Who are the people providing for this crazy person's defense? If you read the post the most virulent of his supporters have spread WILD inaccuracies about Martin andd the case...you have to ask yourself why do they want to believe these things? Why do they want to believe that a man who had a history of domestic violence/assault on benzos and stimulants who stalked an unarmed teen with a gun was in anyway in the right? This country has more problems than the nutty Zimmermans of this world.
Zimmerman is a damn nut who should be taken off the street for a few years. Under Florida law he won't be.
 
Old 12-10-2012, 11:16 PM
 
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Originally Posted by xxbabeechick View Post
Face it, your boy Z needs to be held criminally responsible...there's no way out of this. He's not a traumatized rape victim mistaking his attacker for someone else, he knows enough to concoct a story to make him appear less culpable even if he keeps messing it up.
Zimmerman's concocted story is ridiculous. Like Martin supposedly saying to him "You're gonna die tonight m**ck**r." Who talks like that? Why would an unarmed Martin have had any intention of killing Zimmerman? He wasn't the one wandering the condo complex with a gun.
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