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Old 11-03-2012, 09:01 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Originally Posted by sanspeur View Post
It is even less healthy to believe the crap spewed by fux...It will rot your brain and decrease your IQ...Hotair is doing a public service here.
So I must ask, does NOT reporting stories that would put someone in a bad light count as lying,deception or dishonesty in your mind?
Personally it's all the same to me, lying by omission or straight up bald face lying. Neither is acceptable especially from companies using PUBLIC airwaves to do so.

So, to be fair how about confronting main stream news for their follies and failures or are they all pure as the driven snow?
After the election when the hearings are allowed to proceed hopefully it'll all come out. If it's shown that the claims of coverup and lying are true then I'd fully expect everyone on here who's blindly taking the admin's word for what happened to demand prosecution just like was done to the last administration.
Fair enough?

 
Old 11-03-2012, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by chielgirl View Post
Opinions =/= facts.
Care to try the latter, if you can.
We can pretty much make up anything we want, because 0bama and his White House have been so evasive and unwilling to tell us anything at all. I could say:

"Obama never bothered to ask about the security concerns in Benghazi, and never even knew the ICRC and British embassy were attack with RPGs and had pulled out of Libya by June of this year"

And you would be unwilling to contradict me, because even that little bit of information has not been forthcoming from this White House.

You guys wail and moan that people are saying this and that, but don't care that the reason they are dealing in rumors and repeating statements from multiple unnamed sources, is because this White House is refusing to tell us anything, much less tell us the truth.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 09:37 AM
 
Location: West Egg
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REALITY is the detail that discredits Fox News every single day!
 
Old 11-03-2012, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by jimj View Post
So I must ask, does NOT reporting stories that would put someone in a bad light count as lying,deception or dishonesty in your mind?
Personally it's all the same to me, lying by omission or straight up bald face lying. Neither is acceptable especially from companies using PUBLIC airwaves to do so.

So, to be fair how about confronting main stream news for their follies and failures or are they all pure as the driven snow?
After the election when the hearings are allowed to proceed hopefully it'll all come out. If it's shown that the claims of coverup and lying are true then I'd fully expect everyone on here who's blindly taking the admin's word for what happened to demand prosecution just like was done to the last administration.
Fair enough?
Agreed, sitting back and remaining silent, and knowingly allowing people to be misled and deceived would get a lawyer disbarred in a court of law. 0bama knows this, and yet he has been happy to be a part of the deception and keeping the country in the dark.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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REALITY is the detail that discredits Fox News every single day!
All it would take is a press conference and a speech to the nation by 0bama, but he refuses to do it, and all we get is the back of his hand. So until our government starts to be upfront and transparent with the people, we will be forced to struggle our way to the truth.

Fox News and CBS are forced to deal in rumors, opinion and leaks from unnamed sources because our government is working against us, and refusing to be honest and open with us. Whatever happened to "speak truth to power"? Or is that only applicable to republicans?
 
Old 11-03-2012, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Who is responsible for security at an embassy? Great question. (Hint: It's not the president)
 
Old 11-03-2012, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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The OP is starting threads all over the place "debunking" stories that have come out regarding the administration and alleged claims of what they knew, what they didn' know, what they did, what they didn't do. Apparently the only credible "un-named officials" and "un-named sources" are his.
Well they certainly aren't Foxes.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Sorry. Stink Progress is not a credible source. They are propagandists, "Progressives" who are all in the same camp as Obama and the administration.

No one even cared to investigate the attack except Fox, because of the implications for the administration and the up coming election. It was learned by Fox early on that the attack was not "spontaneous" and carried out by an "angry mob," but was indeed al-Qaeda (they claimed responsibility as early as the next morning). The rest of the media, and the White House, insisted it was because of a video for weeks. They claimed they had no requests for extra security. We now know all this was a lie.

As information and details were discovered, and the cover up by the administration became clear, the rest of the media became interested, but only in an effort to provide cover for the administration.

Fox News is reporting the truth on this matter, as more and more information, details from emails and other communications, and testimony of military officials, comes in.

Key to understanding what happened is this:
Jim Hoft at thegatewaypundit explains the import of Woods painting the jihadi target with a laser:
The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. Then there's this bombshell at BlackFive from a former Delta operator:
... That means that Specter WAS ON STATION! Probably an AC130U. A ground laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser. You do not "paint" a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means that the AC130 was on station.
Only two places could have called off the attack at that point; the WH situation command (based on POTUS direction) or AFRICOM commander based on information directly from the target area.
President Obama tells us he did not deny requests for help. General Carter F. Ham, the Combatant Commander of Africa Command (AFRICOM), says he was never asked to send help. He has since resigned.

Read more: Articles: The Obama Doctrine: American Lives Are Expendable
If Fox had not been investigating this from the beginning, none of the rest of the media would be scrambling to provide cover for the administration. We would not be learning the truth. The Legacy Media, and especially Progressive organizations such as "Think Progress" have no credibility whatsoever. They are only interested in propagandizing and seeing to it that the truth is not learned. That's what propagandists do.

The truth is being learned, and the President of the United States is culpable.
FOX news lowers your IQ.... 17 Things That Make You Dumber - Business Insider
 
Old 11-03-2012, 04:18 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Originally Posted by joebaldknobber View Post

Nobody important died in Libya.

It doesn't matter.

People are dying in NY.

The media knows what is important.
What???
 
Old 11-03-2012, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Originally Posted by Jim_Rockford View Post
Obama didn't order **** he was getting his beauty sleep for his pals in Vegas the next day... it was the rest of his **** poor inept administration that left our people out to die. He couldn't be bothered to do his ****ing job.
I think he was in a gay bath house.
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