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Old 11-02-2012, 01:23 PM
 
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Who said the terrorist attack was the spontaneous result of a protest over a FILM?
I know it is hard for you, but try to stay on topic. The topic is the response to the benghazi terrorist attack. Carry on.

 
Old 11-02-2012, 01:26 PM
 
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I know it is hard for you, but try to stay on topic. The topic is the response to the benghazi terrorist attack. Carry on.

Stay FOCUSED Son.....


Who said?:

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Originally Posted by quigboto
It's a sick kind of irony, that in order to foment faux outrage over Obama's so called lies, the right created a false narrative of their own that as we speak is unraveling in front of them.
To which I replied:

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Who said the terrorist attack was the spontaneous result of a protest over a FILM?

So who was it that created a false narrative?
 
Old 11-02-2012, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Their blood is on Obama's hands.
Ah, but never on the hands of bush/Cheney.

I dont know how those people sleep at night with all the young people who died for oil wars.
 
Old 11-02-2012, 01:42 PM
 
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Stay FOCUSED Son.....


Who said?:



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So who was it that created a false narrative?
Not your son and you are still off topic. Would you like to talk about the response, which is what the video in the OP is talking about. So is the General wrong. Is he a liar?
 
Old 11-02-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Who said the terrorist attack was the spontaneous result of a protest over a FILM?
Actually, initially, the CIA. And that was the information that Rice was acting (prematurely) on when she made her statements, and as more information came in, clearly that assessment changed.
You can show me quotes where Obama and Clinton address the violence throughout the Middle East attributable to the video, but you haven't provided me a quote from Obama or Clinton that fully attributes the Benghazi attack on the video. You somehow conveniently ignore that for weeks the POTUS and his administration said repeatedly that the matter was under investigation, and that they didn't want to speculate when all of the facts were not in.
They were obviously not willing to discount that the video had something to do with the attack (as pretext or cover) until an investigation was complete (And again, completely ignore that it was the CIA, not the President made the initial assessment which blames the video). And you might have believed that you had all the information available at the time, hell, you probably still do (which is delusional), but you'd think you would want the gov't to have its facts straight before making any definitive statements...but of course you don't...
You'd also think that some information wouldn't be readily available if it compromised our assets or operations in the region, but of course you don't...
 
Old 11-02-2012, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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So we were also lied to about 4 Americans being murdered????

You mean THEY ARE ALIVE????
Sorry to interrupt you a ray of common sense but who stated that Americans were not murdered???..

Because your initial statement was destroyed with facts you are now attempting to misdirect your original premise.

Please just learn to gracefully loose an argument..
 
Old 11-02-2012, 01:52 PM
 
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Please just learn to gracefully loose an argument..

When one is lost.
 
Old 11-02-2012, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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When one is lost.
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They called for help and Obama left them to die.
You're original premise is noted above. It has been proved as a lie numerous times. You have lost the argument, at least attempt to muster some grace.
 
Old 11-02-2012, 02:03 PM
 
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You're original premise is noted above. It has been proved as a lie numerous times. You have lost the argument, at least attempt to muster some grace.
It's now a historical FACT, proven by actual cables and telephone calls that they were begging for help which never came.
 
Old 11-02-2012, 02:06 PM
 
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It's a sick kind of irony, that in order to foment faux outrage over Obama's so called lies, the right created a false narrative of their own that as we speak is unraveling in front of them.
So, in order to craft their false narrative:
Are they in denial that there have been numerous violent protests throughout the Middle East over the video?
Should Obama have ignored these violent protests and not addressed the video, despite the fact that it has been a major factor in violence throughout the ME?
Is there a single quote that attributes this horrific act to the video alone? Or are they ignoring the numerous statements from the POTUS and his administration stating that the matter was under investigation and they don't want to make any definitive statements until all of the facts are in?
Also, are they ignoring the fact that there are probably still numerous US assets in the area that are still in danger and would be further endangered if all of the information they're crying for is released? Are they in favor of endangering more Americans to further their political agenda? Should other operations potentially be compromised to satisfy their demands?
Do they really think Obama laughed and had a bowl of popcorn while Ambassador Stevens was murdered? Help was mobilized almost immediately, but was hindered by logistics (Probably to do with permissions to launch a military operation outside of US soil, and failure to coordinate assets without compromising other operations, and those are just the most obvious scenarios...)
Did the fact that he didn't call it a "terrorist attack" soon enough for them make the Ambassador any less dead? The attack any less reprehensible?
Also, since when is the POTUS in charge of staffing embassy security?
Obama lied, people died, is a lie. Congratulations conservatives on becoming the very thing that you claim to hate.
This comment is going towards your question that I put in bold, where was the outrage about that idiot in office Darrel Issa releasing sensitive information without blacking out names of people that are U.S. allies and thereby putting lives in danger as well as making others not want to help us in the M.E. for fear of "certain" politicians doing something so monumentally stupid as what he did. Btw I am not saying anything bad about you just adding to your question
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