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Mostly health-and-safety related. GM doesn't have that problem.
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Originally Posted by Frugality
If there is nothing wrong with GMO's why don't you want people to know foods contain them?? Propostion 37 doesn't ban GMO's, all it does is require labeling. Even my wool coat tells me the contents of my coat
Dear Lost,
You're, um..... mistaken
I don't think you've educated yourself either (there IS evidence - dead rats, etc)
I don't think you're a liberal, either
Well, you've certainly assumed a lot about me based on one post. Feel free to browse any of my other posts... I think it's pretty clear I'm a liberal. I simply don't agree with you on this one thing... is that ok?
I like science, I trust it... and the truth is, there is very limited data out there on the effects of GMO foods.
Koch Bros don't want no government regulations to get in the way of their profits. The have spent serious $tens of millions fighting prop 37 and funding anti Obama/pro Romney ads. Same guys who made it clear to their employees that heads will roll if Obama is reelected.
My gawd, even Russia, China and India, require labeling of their food products in addition to
do in over 40 other nations throughout Europe and Australia.
then wait till the Federal Govt mandates it. It doesn't belong as an issue to states. It'll raise food costs to those who live in the state, because manufactureres need to make "special" labels for food to be sold there.
Probably not true. They'll no doubt do what they do right now and have lawyers draft one label which complies with it all.
I don't have a problem with informing the consumers on what they are buying. Banning the foods and products? No, but labels? Why not?
I'm also in favor of selling eradiated foods, with labels.
It's a murky place to start, honestly.
Let us not forget we've been genetically altering food for ten thousand years. Only in the past twenty or so have we gotten down--literally--to a science.
I can honestly get behind the "label it" message and meaning. It's well intending, the problem is a lot of people and groups out there are vehemently anti genetic-engineering. And the labeling movement, unfortunately, is part of that. I can't morally support labeling as long as it's conflated with the anti-GM movement.
Monsanto are evil bastards, and I'm sure a percentage is against GM foods because of how Monsanto operates. We undoubtedly have to have a series political and economic discussion about what can and can't be done with GM foods.
But using Monsanto as the reason to so aggressively attack GM foods is absurd. To bring up my former analogy, it'd be akin to saying we shouldn't have electricity because of the Electric Chair, or perhaps because of Standard Oil.
Koch Bros don't want no government regulations to get in the way of their profits. The have spent serious $tens of millions fighting prop 37 and funding anti Obama/pro Romney ads. Same guys who made it clear to their employees that heads will roll if Obama is reelected.
My gawd, even Russia, China and India, require labeling of their food products in addition to
do in over 40 other nations throughout Europe and Australia.
Most of Europe, which has regulations on GM food crops, doesn't have 50% of the population too idiotic to actually understand things change over time. We have a serious science education deficiency in this country.
Let us not forget we've been genetically altering food for ten thousand years. Only in the past twenty or so have we gotten down--literally--to a science.
I can honestly get behind the "label it" message and meaning. It's well intending, the problem is a lot of people and groups out there are vehemently anti genetic-engineering. And the labeling movement, unfortunately, is part of that. I can't morally support labeling as long as it's conflated with the anti-GM movement.
Monsanto are evil bastards, and I'm sure a percentage is against GM foods because of how Monsanto operates. We undoubtedly have to have a series political and economic discussion about what can and can't be done with GM foods.
But using Monsanto as the reason to so aggressively attack GM foods is absurd. To bring up my former analogy, it'd be akin to saying we shouldn't have electricity because of the Electric Chair, or perhaps because of Standard Oil.
We have genetically modified food for centuries and millenia through natural genetic engineering. Cross polination, etc.
The genetically modified foods this is talking about is gene splicing, making corn safe for round up for instance.
Telling people what they are buying, to me, doesn't seem so evil. We aren't banning your sales, why not tell people whats in it? I agree, some people will decide not to buy genetically modified food, but the consumer will make the call with dollars, not with a veil over their eyes.
I've waited 17 years for some action against GE food. This is the least we sould be doing.
Yes on Prop 37
The people shouldn't have to be held responsible for KNOWing all the underhanded, dangerous things they need to avoid. Besides the bio-tech companies go to great lengths to hide their activities.
We told them we didn't want GMO's. They had 17 years to create labling their way, before we demanded it (after 17 years)
We waited 17 years to get labeling; let's not pass up the opportunity.
"37 - fraught with problems" That's not our problem. When at first you practice to deceive...." They shouldn't have EVER started genetically altering OUR food, and they could've predicted the public wouldn't want it(actually, there were polls taken).
They knew; but money blinded them. Now their spending $40 million of the billions they have, into ads against labeling, and to bribe newspapers into writing anti-labeling op/eds.
Bio-manipulation causes MORE problems, and it's unethical and illegal to do it against the public's will(The US was 80% against this when it started in 1995).
I"ll be voting yes tomorrow...
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