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Old 11-26-2012, 02:59 PM
 
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The Chinese are all about boosting "prestige" by building the biggest, the fastest etc.

Frankly, tons of their crap is built sub-standard and it's well documented as they've had a huge number of collapses of newly constructed bridges and so forth.

Hey, it's not like we don't jack things up as well....no different that corruption here in the states but it's VERY widespread there.
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:01 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Praising Pravda, admiring China -- jeez, watta buncha commies on this board.
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:59 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Getting back on topic: Some structural engineers are skeptical.

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/can-c...s--469055.html

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“You are talking about an enormous wind load. This document makes no mention of wind. There will be an enormous horizontal load all the way to the bottom of the tower.”

CTBUH’s Brass concurs: “There are forces working on a building that tall, including the wind. It is not a minor thing at that height.”

Leclercq continues: “By just using these simple units all put together, you’re not going to get enough stiffness; this building will have an enormous storey drift and it will sway. It would be interesting to see their concept for the structure and how they are going to deal with the stiffness, the strength and the size of the columns.
“As you go down the structure, the building will have to carry the enormous load of an almost one-kilometre high tower on top of it. You need big structural elements to deal with that. If it got built I don’t think I would feel safe in this tower, unless I had a really good understanding of how they put it all together.”
They might be able to get it up in 90 days, but whether it'll stay up is another matter entirely.
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:18 PM
 
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Getting back on topic: Some structural engineers are skeptical.

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/can-c...s--469055.html



They might be able to get it up in 90 days, but whether it'll stay up is another matter entirely.

A very interesting article. Thanks for the link.

I am still amazed that this company built a 30-story hotel in 15 days. Pre-fab, Baby!

From what I have read, so far no word on whether this 200+ story building has been approved by the government. Since the linked article mentioned that the building was suppose to begin this very month, I guess things are being held up (or, eventually, denied permission).
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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"If" its approved by the government, and I have no doubt it will be, it would start construction next month. 220 stories is crazy high. Hell most single prop cesnas fly lower then that most of the time.

We will see.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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I don't see this as happening. I live in Chicago and the tallest building here at 1440 feet (110 floors) already sways so much at the top on windy days, it actually makes some people experience motion sickness. And the amount of space needed for elevators and mechanical stuff like plumbing and such would take up a huge amount of space. While it is possible for the Chinese to build it, it would make far more economic sense to build 2 towers of 110 floors and even more sense to build 4 of 55 floors.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:45 PM
 
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This is a concept so far as I know, the location itself is in doubt. China news always has extra juicy in it.
I looked at the picture on the link and that city looks exactly like Chicago! Not only are the Chinese stealing our trade secrets and copying our software but now they are copying our cities!


Sky City: China’s tower will be the world’s tallest
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:53 PM
 
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Getting back on topic: Some structural engineers are skeptical.

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/can-c...s--469055.html



They might be able to get it up in 90 days, but whether it'll stay up is another matter entirely.
Well, they've done okay with the design models they've been working on...

Oh wait...Jenga!

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Old 11-26-2012, 07:14 PM
 
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the bigger and taller they are the harder they fall... we learned that lesson with the wtc..
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The building looks potentially ugly, and I question the design for the height of the building because of wind at that height, but the speed at which it is getting built makes sense if it is all prefabricated in a warehouse.

With this building I think there might be a number of problems, like does it have a core, how does it handle wind and sway, how does it handle commuting within the building (elevator speeds and elevator shafts.) It could take someone over a half hour to get to the upper floors.

This is really all I have seen on this building and usually I ignore these super tall buildings because they almost never get built so I really don't know how serious this proposal really is.
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