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Old 11-28-2012, 12:21 PM
 
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There are puberty suppressing drugs. And they don't do any damage...they just buy the child additional time to be sure. Puberty is hell for a transgender kid...those drugs are life savers.

 
Old 11-28-2012, 12:22 PM
 
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Being forced to be someone you aren't hurts far more. The parents have the best interest of their child at heart in this case. You shouldnt have a say here.
a 9 year old knows nothing of what it feels like to be a girl or boy. The parents have steered this poor child into THEIR thinking.
 
Old 11-28-2012, 12:22 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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I would agree, most 9 year olds don't know anything about it, because they don't have a gender disorder... it's not exactly a common condition. It's also not Frankenstein garbage, but a well documented condition in which the brain thinks one thing, while the body shows another. A 9-year old is perfectly capable of recognizing this discrepancy in their own body.
Actually, some are younger than 9. At least one.



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Kim Petras was born on 27 August 1992[1] as Tim Petras. Her parents, Lutz and Konni, have said that from the age of two, she began insisting she was a girl. It became apparent this was "not just a phase,"[3] and her parents tried to be supportive but made her wear gender neutral clothes in public.[4] Eventually her parents sought professional help but struggled to find people who were knowledgeable on the subject. In time they found Bernd Meyenburg at Frankfurt University who was head of a clinic for children and had studied transsexuality since the 1970s.[3]
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now a 2 year old knows???? You people are downright creepy for believing this tripe.
Get over yourself, it's not tripe but is fact.
 
Old 11-28-2012, 12:23 PM
 
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Actually, some are younger than 9.


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now a 2 year old knows???? You people are downright creepy for believing this tripe.
 
Old 11-28-2012, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Do you have every person you encounter scanned to ensure that the way they present themselves matches their chromosomes?
maybe we should


why would you advocate for people MISREPRESENTING themselves


if you are born as male or a female, then be that. represent that...if the MIND is wrong, get it fixed
 
Old 11-28-2012, 12:26 PM
 
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a 9 year old knows nothing of what it feels like to be a girl or boy. The parents have steered this poor child into THEIR thinking.

I did. I knew at that age....kids know what gender they feel like.
 
Old 11-28-2012, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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So you are saying you can learn to cope with it though? Again, how about violent people? Don't we teach them that those thought processes and behaviors are incorrect?
My dad learned to cope alright. Night terrors until his death, random shooting at "the enemy" inside the house, and so many other delightful things. The drugs were even better. He was in a walking coma for the 2 years that he was on them.

As for violent offenders, what is the recidivism rate now? Obviously that doesn't work either.
 
Old 11-28-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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maybe we should


why would you advocate for people MISREPRESENTING themselves


if you are born as male or a female, then be that. represent that...if the MIND is wrong, get it fixed
There are women BORN women with XY chromosomes. Its called androgen insensitivity syndrome. Many but not all trans women have partial androgen insensitivity syndrome.

Basically this is my feelings, the law in 48 states recognizes "sex reassignment" as does the Federal government...and have for quite a long long time.

Who cares what you think? I'm beyond tired of people having to justify their existence or identity to people that don't matter. Take care of who you are first.
 
Old 11-28-2012, 12:30 PM
 
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maybe we should


why would you advocate for people MISREPRESENTING themselves


if you are born as male or a female, then be that. represent that...if the MIND is wrong, get it fixed
So you're all for brainwashing techniques, ooooooo kkkkkkkk.
 
Old 11-28-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Clear Lake Area
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No they don't. They don't even know what their body is supposed to feel like or even do at that age. You give too much credit to a child.
Having 4 children myself, I would say you give too little credit to children. You seem to imply that children are relatively gender neutral until puberty. That prior to puberty their gender identity should jump all over the spectrum while environmental norms influence them one way or the other. That's certainly not the case as all of my kids have had very gender specific traits from a very early age, indicating non-environmental influence.
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