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Old 12-13-2012, 02:00 PM
 
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Just out of curiosity, who are Obama's global masters? And for the record many people on the left are not and were not happy with Clinton's NAFTA which in the years after he left office Republicans haven't bothered to revisit.......
The internationalist corporations and all those who crave cheap labor are Obama's global masters.

The Left was never displeased with Clinton, they absolutely worship him. They adore him as though he walks on water.

And Obama just expanded NAFTA and the Left kneels before him with all the devotion they have.

Again -- Obama isn't really promising a huge amnesty with any intention OTHER than cheap labor for his puppet masters.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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IF Jim Hoffa said something you can be certain that it is a lie of the first order.
Hoffa said yesterday that this country is very near a civil war. I guess he thinks his union thugs can fight it out with the rest of us. I don't think his war would last long.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Hoffa said yesterday that this country is very near a civil war. I guess he thinks
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his union thugs
can fight it out with the rest of us. I don't think his war would last long.
What are they going to do? Throw a tantrum and stomp their liffle feet?
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:06 PM
 
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Hoffa said yesterday that this country is very near a civil war. I guess he thinks his union thugs can fight it out with the rest of us. I don't think his war would last long.
The left is threatening violence -- very frequently now.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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A) Texas has oil - Oil and gas drive the Houston economy and are responsible for 50% of the jobs related to the export of goods and services.
B) Why are Wall Street billionaires funding all RTW legislation? Concern for the middle class?
C) Don't knock "commies" - the Red Chinese workforce the favorite of repubs.
D) The highest rates of poverty are in rtw states. Tinkle-down economics has been in effect for 35 years. Question: how long will it take for the "magic of the marketplace" to bring middle-class prosperity?
It will take more than 4 years since according to law Obama will be around another 4 years. Have they started with work on the amendment to repeal the 22nd one, yet. It may take more than 4 years to get it passed so it better pretty well along the way to being written. The worst part is that I don't think the House would approve it for another couple of years.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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I think it's worth noting that circumstances peculiar to the metropolitan area of Greater Detroit, and the industry identified with it, that made this shift within what's always thought of as a strong union state so confusing.

There were exceptions, like Ford's River Rouge complex, but the manufacture of automobiles was usually about the assembly of vehicles from a number of components, and the manufacture of them. Detroit had the inside track in large part because its former status as a carriage-manufacture center involved a lot of related technology of the day, and even the manufacture of cast-iron stoves, in which it also dominated, could be adapted to the foundries that built the engines.

Not many people today know that before he built his integrated iron-ore-to-autos complex, Ford got many of his parts from none other than the Dodge brothers, or that the Briggs family, for whom Tiger Stadium was once named, made their fortune supplying auto bodies to many smaller car makers at one time.

So the pattern of small forging, stamping and metal-working shops, supplying everything from hood latches to motor mounts, was well-established decades before the auto industry began to melt down under the pressures of both foreign competition and over-regulation, What's more, the work force at these operations tended to be composed more of more-versatile and more-skeptical employees who didn't always buy into the "mass message" the UAW has always sold to the more-security-conscious and less-questioning types in the back row at the union rally.

The chickens came home to roost this week.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What are they going to do? Throw a tantrum and stomp their liffle feet?
Yeah..every tent in the US will be trampled and shredded.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:37 PM
 
Location: west mich
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A) Your evidence does not show "the Left" doesn't approve of what he did. You just show the truckers' union doesn't approve. Wow, one group of truckers doesn't like it when another group of truckers expands their marketshare. Certainly that's ironclad evidence of broad spectrum political beliefs. Or not.

B) Amnesty was not favored by Reagan. He agreed to it with the idea that the border would be closed. You're leaving out half the equation. But then distorting things to fit your perceptions and make your arguments look good is par for course on the left.

C) Right Wing corporations are not the Republican base. Look at an election map. The Republican base is rural and suburban white America. Again with the twisting of the facts. And the Republican base favors cheap labor but also cheap prices. It's called market driven economics. So once again you only present a half-truth.
A) The progressive media, along with unions, have never liked it. How would you know any of this by listening to right-wing media?
B) Obama has stepped up patrolling of the borders since Bush.
C) Wall Street certainly is the repub party base and its master. The boss is Grover Norquist, a wealthy corporate lobbyist and repubs make no move without consulting him first. They signed a pledge to him, which you must know about - right? They also consult with Limbaugh who, as you know, despises Romney's corporate-fundraiser 47%. Your base is whom you serve and where your funding comes from.
The electoral map just shows where the low-information voters are - those who only listen to republican-controlled media and believe the propaganda.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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It is true that wages here are less than places like NYC and CA. But it is also true that cost of living here is vastly lower. In fact while wages arent as high, in many cases real purchasing power is better in Texas than those states with higher wages.

Maybe we should make the claim that RTW drives down cost of living and thus drives up purchasing power for the average worker.
Until you figure in the outrageous HIGH property taxes in Texas.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: TX
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High property taxes, yes.... low overall tax burden compared with other US states.

The Tax Tale: 50-state comparison - JSOnline

A little outdated (2010), but still relevant.

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