Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
A) As a right-winger then you approve of what Obama did for the truckers, although the "left" does not. U.S., Mexico Reach Deal on Trucking Dispute - WSJ.com
Notice from the WSJ article:
"The new requirements for Mexican trucks are tougher than those established in Nafta and somewhat tougher than those currently in force for American truckers".
"Nonetheless, the agreement appears to be a setback for U.S. labor unions....."
"The trucking deal "caves in to business interests at the expense of the traveling public and American workers," said International Brotherhood of Teamsters president Jim Hoffa".
So the decision favors the republican base, yet you continually express your disdain for the "left" and unions.
B) Amnesty has been on the table for years and was favored by your idol Reagan.
C) It is the right wing corporations, the repub base, which favor and employ dirt-cheap labor. They seek it out worldwide and especially like it locally.
IF Jim Hoffa said something you can be certain that it is a lie of the first order.
Maybe you're too young to remember. Offshoring was sold to us as a great thing. -----------------------------
Did that happen ? If it did then that $11K Kia sold in China would also be $11K here instead of $20K.
Here's what you don't see. China was on the bottom so the only direction for them was upward in salary and wealth.
The US was on top and is falling in salary and wealth. Globalism calls for equalibrium in labor but says nothing about equilbrium in product costs.
Instead of trying to understand what I'm trying to say you get all childish and tell me to pack my bags and move there. Me, as a single individual, moving to China, will not stop what is happening in society.
Here's some more childishness:
** Offshoring and tinkle-down was sold to us by corporate republicans and their media - nobody else. Many did not believe it. Blame your own media for the sell job (on the very thing you embrace BTW).
** China is still a hated commie country which conservatives have always publicly reviled and isolated when it didn't serve their purposes. Voila - profit!
** There is no equilibrium in labor or anything else while various countries are practicing various degrees of protectionism.
** Your typical right-wing opinion of extolling the virtues of Asian indentured servitude, hatred of "socialist" countries of Europe whose citizens are "too contented", and the American lower classes driving the country to destruction, suggests your allegiances are elsewhere.
** I suggest that moving to SE Asia, "the global future", would make any republican more happy. Why not try it.
Hypocrite: "a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feeling".
A) As a right-winger then you approve of what Obama did for the truckers, although the "left" does not. U.S., Mexico Reach Deal on Trucking Dispute - WSJ.com
Notice from the WSJ article:
"The new requirements for Mexican trucks are tougher than those established in Nafta and somewhat tougher than those currently in force for American truckers".
"Nonetheless, the agreement appears to be a setback for U.S. labor unions....."
"The trucking deal "caves in to business interests at the expense of the traveling public and American workers," said International Brotherhood of Teamsters president Jim Hoffa".
So the decision favors the republican base, yet you continually express your disdain for the "left" and unions.
B) Amnesty has been on the table for years and was favored by your idol Reagan.
C) It is the right wing corporations, the repub base, which favor and employ dirt-cheap labor. They seek it out worldwide and especially like it locally.
The Left absolutely worships the Master of NAFTA Bill Clinton, and the Clintons took many trips to China to negotiate away our jobs.
As for NAFTA, the trucks coming over from Mexico are in terrible shape -- there are very few rules for them or they are not required to follow them. But --- their drivers will work for dirt cheap --- and that is why Obama expanded NAFTA --- so they'll come and do all the truck-driving jobs for pitiful wages that Americans won't do. Obama is also part of the Left remember, he is very much a cheap labor globalist.
And if Republicans like Reagan are so bad, why do you worship someone like Obama who wants not only to repeat the big amnesty but bring in far more millions than the Republican did?
Obama is every much the puppet of the cheap labor globalist corporations that Bush and Clinton were. Corporations aren't Republican or Democrat -- they are the masters of both political parties. Obama is simply an obedient puppet of them.
Obama isn't pushing for this massive amnesty because he just happens to prefer foreigners over Americans --- it's ALL and ONLY about bringing the desired cheap labor and in very massive quantities.
He only pretends to care about unions and the workers -- he clearly is about lowering wages. The global corporations see Americans as consumers -- and to Obama it's fine of no Americans work, they can all be on unemployment as long as they spend their unemployment checks at Walmart -- that keeps his global masters happy.
The Left absolutely worships the Master of NAFTA Bill Clinton, and the Clintons took many trips to China to negotiate away our jobs.
As for NAFTA, the trucks coming over from Mexico are in terrible shape -- there are very few rules for them or they are not required to follow them. But --- their drivers will work for dirt cheap --- and that is why Obama expanded NAFTA --- so they'll come and do all the truck-driving jobs for pitiful wages that Americans won't do. Obama is also part of the Left remember, he is very much a cheap labor globalist.
And if Republicans like Reagan are so bad, why do you worship someone like Obama who wants not only to repeat the big amnesty but bring in far more millions than the Republican did?
Obama is every much the puppet of the cheap labor globalist corporations that Bush and Clinton were. Corporations aren't Republican or Democrat -- they are the masters of both political parties. Obama is simply an obedient puppet of them.
Obama isn't pushing for this massive amnesty because he just happens to prefer foreigners over Americans --- it's ALL and ONLY about bringing the desired cheap labor and in very massive quantities.
He only pretends to care about unions and the workers -- he clearly is about lowering wages. The global corporations see Americans as consumers -- and to Obama it's fine of no Americans work, they can all be on unemployment as long as they spend their unemployment checks at Walmart -- that keeps his global masters happy.
Just out of curiosity, who are Obama's global masters? And for the record many people on the left are not and were not happy with Clinton's NAFTA which in the years after he left office Republicans haven't bothered to revisit.......
Here's an idea. In all RTW States, the minimum wage should be doubled. We know the wages in those States are headed to the minimum which is the intent of the RTW laws. So at least workers in those States would be at the higher end of poverty.
Commenting on wages, my son says that wages here in Kansas are a lot lower than most eastern states and we have had RTW laws here for a very long time (clear back to the forties). Of course, since people aren't paid as much things don't cost so much so they don't need to be above that federal poverty level. I guess we are at your higher end.
here is a better idea. keep your commie stuff out of our great Free Market states?
Oh and the notiong that RTW was created to drive wages down is just bunk. Texas has been RTW for YEARS and that has not happened and is not happening.
It is true that wages here are less than places like NYC and CA. But it is also true that cost of living here is vastly lower. In fact while wages arent as high, in many cases real purchasing power is better in Texas than those states with higher wages.
Maybe we should make the claim that RTW drives down cost of living and thus drives up purchasing power for the average worker.
A) Texas has oil - Oil and gas drive the Houston economy and are responsible for 50% of the jobs related to the export of goods and services.
B) Why are Wall Street billionaires funding all RTW legislation? Concern for the middle class?
C) Don't knock "commies" - the Red Chinese workforce the favorite of repubs.
D) The highest rates of poverty are in rtw states. Tinkle-down economics has been in effect for 35 years. Question: how long will it take for the "magic of the marketplace" to bring middle-class prosperity?
A) As a right-winger then you approve of what Obama did for the truckers, although the "left" does not. U.S., Mexico Reach Deal on Trucking Dispute - WSJ.com
Notice from the WSJ article:
"The new requirements for Mexican trucks are tougher than those established in Nafta and somewhat tougher than those currently in force for American truckers".
"Nonetheless, the agreement appears to be a setback for U.S. labor unions....."
"The trucking deal "caves in to business interests at the expense of the traveling public and American workers," said International Brotherhood of Teamsters president Jim Hoffa".
So the decision favors the republican base, yet you continually express your disdain for the "left" and unions.
B) Amnesty has been on the table for years and was favored by your idol Reagan.
C) It is the right wing corporations, the repub base, which favor and employ dirt-cheap labor. They seek it out worldwide and especially like it locally.
A) Your evidence does not show "the Left" doesn't approve of what he did. You just show the truckers' union doesn't approve. Wow, one group of truckers doesn't like it when another group of truckers expands their marketshare. Certainly that's ironclad evidence of broad spectrum political beliefs. Or not.
B) Amnesty was not favored by Reagan. He agreed to it with the idea that the border would be closed. You're leaving out half the equation. But then distorting things to fit your perceptions and make your arguments look good is par for course on the left.
C) Right Wing corporations are not the Republican base. Look at an election map. The Republican base is rural and suburban white America. Again with the twisting of the facts. And the Republican base favors cheap labor but also cheap prices. It's called market driven economics. So once again you only present a half-truth.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
