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Old 12-12-2012, 12:36 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I don't care much either way, but basically, nothing much would happen. The main this is that conservative cranks would have to find another means to express their paranoia, which I'm sure they would handily accomplish.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Only police, military and criminals would have them.
All we need to do is look at the UK as a prime example. There seems to be no problem with criminals finding weapons in the UK. The disarmament of the citizenry capitol, where armed home invasions are up to staggering levels.

PJMedia- Crime in the UK is exploding at an alarming rate. According to recently released statistics, it’s the most violent place in the European Union. And those who parry that “it’s not as bad as the U.S.” — as so many do when talking crime statistics — are correct. The UK is worse. In the UK, there are 2,034 offenses per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-place Austria at 1,677. The U.S. has a rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada has 935, Australia has 92, and South Africa has 1,609.

Chicago is a disarmed society, yet is the murder capitol of the US. DC isn't far behind.

Lowest crime rates in large cities; Scottsdale, AZ (open carry) and Plano, TX (open carry)... go figure!

Only police, military and criminals would have them.
Only police, military and criminals would have them.
Only police, military and criminals would have them.
Only police, military and criminals would have them.
Only police, military and criminals would have them.
Only police, military and criminals would have them.
Only police, military and criminals would have them.
Only police, military and criminals would have them.
Only police, military and criminals would have them.
Only police, military and criminals would have them.

They'll still deny this truth no matter how many times you repeat it.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Take a trip sometime to nearby Cambodia. Over 2 million killed from 1970 to 1980, about 29% of the population. They had strict gun control in place since 1938. It did not seem to enhance safety.
Death by Government - R. J. Rummel - Google Books

To me, it's astonishing that people don't get this after the 20th century.
They "get it", they just choose to ignore it. They believe that ideologies trump human nature.

Family to love, food to live, bullets to protect your family and food.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:01 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Take a trip sometime to nearby Cambodia. Over 2 million killed from 1970 to 1980, about 29% of the population. They had strict gun control in place since 1938. It did not seem to enhance safety.
Death by Government - R. J. Rummel - Google Books

To me, it's astonishing that people don't get this after the 20th century.
Pol Pot's killing fields and the US incursion of 1970 had something to do with those 2 million deaths, no? It was a war zone. What could you possibly glean from those statistics?

Look at how the U.S. compares to other industrialized nations in violent crime. It does poorly.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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The UK averages .2 homicides per 100k residents (firearms) vs 3.0 in the U.S.

I like the sound of the UK's numbers.
By all means, move there..
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:13 AM
 
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Here in Montreal, a city of 3million+ and laws that relegate hand guns to private shooting clubs only,concealed weapons are totally illegal,i heard on the news a few days ago that we just had our 33rd murder of the year.I wonder what impact it would have on that 33 number if every one could carry.
As for private citizens needing guns to ward off a governments military (for what reason i cant imagine) i doubt a bunch of fat weekend wannabe's with guns are going to give a well trained military much in the way of opposition.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:14 AM
 
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Slavery.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:15 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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One thing that would happen if you banned guns, is you would make me a criminal, because I have absolutely no intention of EVER surrendering my firearms to ANYONE!!!
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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One thing that would happen if you banned guns, is you would make me a criminal, because I have absolutely no intention of EVER surrendering my firearms to ANYONE!!!
HERE! HERE!

You, me and 60 million more of us. Largest standing army in the world, and this is why the UN hates us.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Well, how would criminals have them if there were none? Criminals in the UK don't have them and the whole country has about 30 gun deaths a year as opposed to 30,000 for the US.

Do you sleep better at night knowing people are stabbed, strangled and tossed out of windows instead of being shot?

The England still managed 551 murders in 2012.

Crime statistics for England & Wales: what's happening to each offence? | News | guardian.co.uk
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