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Old 12-24-2012, 03:25 PM
 
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Seems like old 'lucky Pierre' or whatever his name is, didn't really do his homework when he spoke about armed security in Israeli schools. Seems that the Israelis do this because of terrorism, not because of fear of some nut-case going beserk! But as they say, don't let the truth get in the way of a good rant.
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:28 PM
 
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It's none of Israel's business how we protect our children, just as it is none of ours how they protect their's.
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:31 PM
 
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I could care less how other government run their countries.

But funny to note the leftists suddenly caring about what Israel thinks.
Oh Lefties have all of the sudden adopted the "Israeli is a very close friend" rhetoric...Just like Obama...

So much for what would have been the biggest "change"....

Progressivism exposed at it's finest/worst.
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:31 PM
 
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Israel was used as an example where armed security protects schools. That is a fact.

Regarding Switzerland, they still issue the rifles but not the ammo. The ammunition for the guns is heavily subsidized and made available for purchase. A referendum by gun control advocates in 2011 was intended to have the guns stored in arsenals instead of homes. That was soundly rejected by the voters. They still keep the guns in their homes.
Please don't irritate the lefties with facts.
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Old 12-24-2012, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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It's none of Israel's business how we protect our children, just as it is none of ours how they protect their's.
You don't protect your children very well, do you? People like you do a better job of protecting your gun fetish than your kids....
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Old 12-24-2012, 04:51 PM
 
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Please don't irritate the lefties with facts.
The facts are that gun ownership, ammo procurement, and transportation of guns (carrying) are MUCH more tightly regulated and restricted in Switzerland than in the USA.
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Old 12-24-2012, 04:56 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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The facts are that gun ownership, ammo procurement, and transportation of guns (carrying) are MUCH more tightly regulated and restricted in Switzerland than in the USA.
The Swiss regulations are considerably less restrictive than some of our states (such as NYC, NJ, CA), and more restrictive than our most free states (such as VT, NH, AK, etc.).
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:33 PM
 
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An excellent article:

Israelis shoot down NRA's claim that the Jewish State uses more weapons to keep schools safe - NY Daily News

So Israel heavily restricts gun carrying, and Switzerland removed the ammunition for their militia issued weapons years ago. In Israel you do not have a right to a gun and instead you must prove both that you a good reason to get one and that you are qualified which means you have to flawlessly pass a 100 question test about Israeli gun laws and pass a mental health exam; fail either and they take away your gun. You have to redo this every year. Even after all that most gun license requests are denied unless you are a settler in the occupied west bank. They don't want armed yahoos in Israel proper. BTW for years the Swiss were not allowed to carry ammo for their issued militia rifle and now even Switzerland is requiring most militia members to keep their rifles locked up in official armories when not on official military service.

The NRA's habit of saying 'but look at these other countries' is falling into the old reality trap. Reality says otherwise.
So basically the Isreali's are sayig they do not need secutity with guns to gaurd their schools like america does. perhpas its that they have a less violent society i killigeach toehr. A people problem like the stats everyday show in US.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:37 PM
 
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I could care less how other government run their countries.
Except when they bolster one of your opinions.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Wow, no comments, huh? But just days ago the gun nuts were all repeating the talking point that some how Israel and Switzerland were their ideal examples. What changed?

Oh, they were proven to be completely wrong in what they were saying... That's right.
No.

Just sick of the typical lefttard lack of knowledge babble.

Here's your clue: If you don't want a gun, don't get one. See how simple it is? Even for you.
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