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Let me start off by saying that I am definately pro gun, an NRA member { proudly } and strongly believe in a law abiding citizens right to keep and bear arms.What I came up with would be considered far too radical in most pro gun circles, but I would be fine with it along with a fair amount of other gun owners I think. I also want it to be clear that the recent shooting in Newtown are not what prompted me to consider what types of reform would be acceptable, I have had these views for some time now.
1.} Create a National Firearms Registry that would link the serial # of all guns to their lawful purchasers identity.
2.} Regulate the "secondary market" of firearms sales and purchases by requiring that ALL gun sales have a mandatory background check performed by a licensed Federal Firearms dealer, along with a transfer of ownership in the national registry. So basically, if someone wants to sell someone else a gun, they would both have to go to a licensed FFL where a background check on the purchaser can be performed, and a transfer of ownership form can be filed so that the newly created national firearms registry can be updated to show that that specific firearm now has a new owner, releasing the previous owner from any and all responsibility for it.
What this would help with is the illegal gun trafficking that goes on in this country. It would also make the lawful purchaser of any firearm more accountable to where the gun ends up after the initial purchase, all the while helping to prevent criminals from obtaining guns through private transactions.
3.}Define what mental issues should diaqualify someone from purchasing a firearm. From there, make it so that someones mental health status pops up during the background check
4.} Limiting the amount of ammo a magazine can hold, mandating all but one firearm be in a locked safe, preventing people who have the mentaly ill living with them from purchasing a firearm or providing more strict restrictions for those individuals, etc. are all possible concessions.
5.} Make gun laws across the country more uniformed. Too often guns found to be illegaly posessed in one area or state were actually legally purchased in another state.l
6.}Pass a national Right-to-carry law at the federal level which would pre-empt all state laws that aren't as stringent. The details of training and the amount of training required could all be worked out by assembling a team of experts on the subject. Allow private property owners and businesses an "opt-out" option.
Elven with all this, it is very important to remember that such tragedies as Newtown would not be totlaly prevented. Even just the type of gun violence we hear about on the news would not be totally prevented. I believe though, that if the above were implemented in to law, it would not unreasonably burden lawful gun owners but benefit them, while at the same time, help tremendously to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, the mentally ill, or just people who should otherwise not have them.
So there you have it, my proposal for "common sense" reform.
"Common sense" to me would translate to "let's find something that will work." We've tried one after another of these half-measures re guns, and they have never worked. We effectively banned full-auto back in 1934. Did it work? No, people intent on mayhem just switched to semi-auto. Then after the Kennedy assasination we passed the Gun Control Act of 68. It banned among other things, mail order purchase of guns (Oswald had purchased a rifle via mail order). Did it work? No, people intent on mayhem just switched from mail order to other methods of purchase. Then we passed the Brady Act and the "assault weapons" ban in 1994. Did they work? Hardly. 5 years later we had the Columbine shooting.
"Common sense" is finding actual solutions. Doing the same thing and expecting different results....insanity.
I do agree with point #3. That might have actually provided a preventive solution in such cases as Aurora, CO, and VA Tech.
"Common sense" to me would translate to "let's find something that will work." We've tried one after another of these half-measures re guns, and they have never worked. We effectively banned full-auto back in 1934. Did it work? No, people intent on mayhem just switched to semi-auto. Then after the Kennedy assasination we passed the Gun Control Act of 68. It banned among other things, mail order purchase of guns (Oswald had purchased a rifle via mail order). Did it work? No, people intent on mayhem just switched from mail order to other methods of purchase. Then we passed the Brady Act and the "assault weapons" ban in 1994. Did they work? Hardly. 5 years later we had the Columbine shooting.
"Common sense" is finding actual solutions. Doing the same thing and expecting different results....insanity.
I do agree with point #3. That might have actually provided a preventive solution in such cases as Aurora, CO, and VA Tech.
The answer from gun lovers/fetishists is always the same ...no law regulating guns in any way works. It's like asking a heroin addict if heroin should be illegal.
Of course that's complete nonsense, but focus on anything other than keeping access to their toys as easy as buying a bike.
Let me start off by saying that I am definately pro gun, an NRA member { proudly } and strongly believe in a law abiding citizens right to keep and bear arms.What I came up with would be considered far too radical in most pro gun circles, but I would be fine with it along with a fair amount of other gun owners I think. I also want it to be clear that the recent shooting in Newtown are not what prompted me to consider what types of reform would be acceptable, I have had these views for some time now.
1.} Create a National Firearms Registry that would link the serial # of all guns to their lawful purchasers identity.
2.} Regulate the "secondary market" of firearms sales and purchases by requiring that ALL gun sales have a mandatory background check performed by a licensed Federal Firearms dealer, along with a transfer of ownership in the national registry. So basically, if someone wants to sell someone else a gun, they would both have to go to a licensed FFL where a background check on the purchaser can be performed, and a transfer of ownership form can be filed so that the newly created national firearms registry can be updated to show that that specific firearm now has a new owner, releasing the previous owner from any and all responsibility for it.
What this would help with is the illegal gun trafficking that goes on in this country. It would also make the lawful purchaser of any firearm more accountable to where the gun ends up after the initial purchase, all the while helping to prevent criminals from obtaining guns through private transactions.
3.}Define what mental issues should diaqualify someone from purchasing a firearm. From there, make it so that someones mental health status pops up during the background check
4.} Limiting the amount of ammo a magazine can hold, mandating all but one firearm be in a locked safe, preventing people who have the mentaly ill living with them from purchasing a firearm or providing more strict restrictions for those individuals, etc. are all possible concessions.
5.} Make gun laws across the country more uniformed. Too often guns found to be illegaly posessed in one area or state were actually legally purchased in another state.l
6.}Pass a national Right-to-carry law at the federal level which would pre-empt all state laws that aren't as stringent. The details of training and the amount of training required could all be worked out by assembling a team of experts on the subject. Allow private property owners and businesses an "opt-out" option.
Elven with all this, it is very important to remember that such tragedies as Newtown would not be totlaly prevented. Even just the type of gun violence we hear about on the news would not be totally prevented. I believe though, that if the above were implemented in to law, it would not unreasonably burden lawful gun owners but benefit them, while at the same time, help tremendously to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, the mentally ill, or just people who should otherwise not have them.
So there you have it, my proposal for "common sense" reform.
Wonderful post indicating compromise and co-operation; imagine that!
"Common sense" to me would translate to "let's find something that will work." We've tried one after another of these half-measures re guns, and they have never worked. We effectively banned full-auto back in 1934. Did it work? No, people intent on mayhem just switched to semi-auto. Then after the Kennedy assasination we passed the Gun Control Act of 68. It banned among other things, mail order purchase of guns (Oswald had purchased a rifle via mail order). Did it work? No, people intent on mayhem just switched from mail order to other methods of purchase. Then we passed the Brady Act and the "assault weapons" ban in 1994. Did they work? Hardly. 5 years later we had the Columbine shooting.
"Common sense" is finding actual solutions. Doing the same thing and expecting different results....insanity.
I do agree with point #3. That might have actually provided a preventive solution in such cases as Aurora, CO, and VA Tech.
As I said, tragedies, shooting, and gun viloence would not be completely prevented. The only way to do that would be to get rid of all guns, and obviously, thats not going to happen nor would I support such an effort. What this would do, is help to keep criminals from gettng guns on the secondary market by making a legal purchaser more wary about selling someone a gun at the kitchen table. I've done that before, and then wondered exactly who I had sold it to. I didn't know them well, nor did I know if they may have had a criminal record which would have otherwise disqualified them from gun ownership. A registry along with mandatory BG checks would eliminate most of that.
Let me start off by saying that I am definately pro gun, an NRA member { proudly } and strongly believe in a law abiding citizens right to keep and bear arms.What I came up with would be considered far too radical in most pro gun circles, but I would be fine with it along with a fair amount of other gun owners I think. I also want it to be clear that the recent shooting in Newtown are not what prompted me to consider what types of reform would be acceptable, I have had these views for some time now.
1.} Create a National Firearms Registry that would link the serial # of all guns to their lawful purchasers identity.
2.} Regulate the "secondary market" of firearms sales and purchases by requiring that ALL gun sales have a mandatory background check performed by a licensed Federal Firearms dealer, along with a transfer of ownership in the national registry. So basically, if someone wants to sell someone else a gun, they would both have to go to a licensed FFL where a background check on the purchaser can be performed, and a transfer of ownership form can be filed so that the newly created national firearms registry can be updated to show that that specific firearm now has a new owner, releasing the previous owner from any and all responsibility for it.
What this would help with is the illegal gun trafficking that goes on in this country. It would also make the lawful purchaser of any firearm more accountable to where the gun ends up after the initial purchase, all the while helping to prevent criminals from obtaining guns through private transactions.
3.}Define what mental issues should diaqualify someone from purchasing a firearm. From there, make it so that someones mental health status pops up during the background check
4.} Limiting the amount of ammo a magazine can hold, mandating all but one firearm be in a locked safe, preventing people who have the mentaly ill living with them from purchasing a firearm or providing more strict restrictions for those individuals, etc. are all possible concessions.
5.} Make gun laws across the country more uniformed. Too often guns found to be illegaly posessed in one area or state were actually legally purchased in another state.l
6.}Pass a national Right-to-carry law at the federal level which would pre-empt all state laws that aren't as stringent. The details of training and the amount of training required could all be worked out by assembling a team of experts on the subject. Allow private property owners and businesses an "opt-out" option.
Elven with all this, it is very important to remember that such tragedies as Newtown would not be totlaly prevented. Even just the type of gun violence we hear about on the news would not be totally prevented. I believe though, that if the above were implemented in to law, it would not unreasonably burden lawful gun owners but benefit them, while at the same time, help tremendously to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, the mentally ill, or just people who should otherwise not have them.
So there you have it, my proposal for "common sense" reform.
200 million people are not going to come forward and register guns in this manner. How do you register a gun with no serial number? Even if this started today it would take two hundred years or more to cycle out the existing guns that have never been documented.
Let me start off by saying that I am definately pro gun, an NRA member { proudly } and strongly believe in a law abiding citizens right to keep and bear arms.What I came up with would be considered far too radical in most pro gun circles, but I would be fine with it along with a fair amount of other gun owners I think. I also want it to be clear that the recent shooting in Newtown are not what prompted me to consider what types of reform would be acceptable, I have had these views for some time now.
1.} Create a National Firearms Registry that would link the serial # of all guns to their lawful purchasers identity.
2.} Regulate the "secondary market" of firearms sales and purchases by requiring that ALL gun sales have a mandatory background check performed by a licensed Federal Firearms dealer, along with a transfer of ownership in the national registry. So basically, if someone wants to sell someone else a gun, they would both have to go to a licensed FFL where a background check on the purchaser can be performed, and a transfer of ownership form can be filed so that the newly created national firearms registry can be updated to show that that specific firearm now has a new owner, releasing the previous owner from any and all responsibility for it.
What this would help with is the illegal gun trafficking that goes on in this country. It would also make the lawful purchaser of any firearm more accountable to where the gun ends up after the initial purchase, all the while helping to prevent criminals from obtaining guns through private transactions.
3.}Define what mental issues should diaqualify someone from purchasing a firearm. From there, make it so that someones mental health status pops up during the background check
4.} Limiting the amount of ammo a magazine can hold, mandating all but one firearm be in a locked safe, preventing people who have the mentaly ill living with them from purchasing a firearm or providing more strict restrictions for those individuals, etc. are all possible concessions.
5.} Make gun laws across the country more uniformed. Too often guns found to be illegaly posessed in one area or state were actually legally purchased in another state.l
6.}Pass a national Right-to-carry law at the federal level which would pre-empt all state laws that aren't as stringent. The details of training and the amount of training required could all be worked out by assembling a team of experts on the subject. Allow private property owners and businesses an "opt-out" option.
Elven with all this, it is very important to remember that such tragedies as Newtown would not be totlaly prevented. Even just the type of gun violence we hear about on the news would not be totally prevented. I believe though, that if the above were implemented in to law, it would not unreasonably burden lawful gun owners but benefit them, while at the same time, help tremendously to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, the mentally ill, or just people who should otherwise not have them.
So there you have it, my proposal for "common sense" reform.
I am not a gun owner, and never will be, but I support the right of those who wish to own guns for sporting purposes, and / or for personal protection. Oh how I wish the NRA would agree to your very sensible "conditions". . . .they would prevent no one who should own a gun from having one, and would go a long way towards keeping guns out of the hands of those who use them to commit crimes. Thank You for your suggestions!
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