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Old 01-17-2013, 06:07 PM
 
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I think what you wanted to say was the, "nothing "natural" about a citizen born in the U.S.A. where both parents aren't U.S. citizens."

You would be legally wrong but at least it would be grammatically and factually correct.
Nope. What he is saying is that a 'statutory' citizen (bestowed by man's pen) can never be a 'natural born' citizen (bestowed by God/nature).
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:10 PM
 
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Nope. What he is saying is that a 'statutory' citizen (bestowed by man's pen) can never be a 'natural born' citizen (bestowed by God/nature).
This message is approved by the Darwinian Ape.

Always natural, all the time.

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Old 01-17-2013, 06:15 PM
 
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Tortured English, yes.

Big azz word game.

Talk to Bill Clinton about it.

He "is" a lawyer, depending on what "is" is, that is!
I believe it was the in-famous James Holmes who asked, "If words have no meaning, how can you have government?"

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Old 01-17-2013, 07:05 PM
 
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I think what you wanted to say was the, "nothing "natural" about a citizen born in the U.S.A. where both parents aren't U.S. citizens."

You would be legally wrong but at least it would be grammatically and factually correct.
Yeah, the borne identity.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:09 PM
 
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It ain't a legal question.

It is a matter of LAW.
Law of the Land, and Natural Law.

The president must be recursive of bothsaid.

And if he isn't?

No synergy, just despotism.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:47 AM
 
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He was born at Forbes Air Force Base Hospital Topeka Ks and real Dad was murdered in a racial attack on both parents hat left three dead. Marriage to Obama Sr arranged by my Dad a couple of months before birth. There is no issue of eligibility, As of 1/71 he was not permitted to be told as I was stopped by his maternal grandmother form saying anything. Please don;t waste the courts money on eligibility issues. The only one is does he yet know and when did he know it. Are there other issues not answered, yes, and those later in life I;m not aware of. My Mother, took his mother to the hospital to have him and did not fly to Kenya or Hawaii form Toepka Ks. To complicate things, Dunham is not his grandfather's real name, but Pope On 7.26.12 I began sharing on my own websites and in Daily recaps some of my eyewitness account of circumstances and birth. So far TRUTH seems unimportant On 8.14.12 I filed and affidavit with Sec of State Kris Kobach and his staff searched for all the records, then Ry Taitz did not Sask f=the judge for a court order for them. Its as if no one want the truth as it might lead to a cover up of three murders 50+ years ago and I knew the real dad and justice has not been done here Few seem to understand what an eye witness even is Everyone in Topeka Ks and community knew and the gossip frenzy turned deadly. Linda Joy Adams
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:07 AM
 
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He was born at Forbes Air Force Base Hospital Topeka Ks and real Dad was murdered in a racial attack on both parents hat left three dead. Marriage to Obama Sr arranged by my Dad a couple of months before birth. There is no issue of eligibility, As of 1/71 he was not permitted to be told as I was stopped by his maternal grandmother form saying anything. Please don;t waste the courts money on eligibility issues. The only one is does he yet know and when did he know it. Are there other issues not answered, yes, and those later in life I;m not aware of. My Mother, took his mother to the hospital to have him and did not fly to Kenya or Hawaii form Toepka Ks. To complicate things, Dunham is not his grandfather's real name, but Pope On 7.26.12 I began sharing on my own websites and in Daily recaps some of my eyewitness account of circumstances and birth. So far TRUTH seems unimportant On 8.14.12 I filed and affidavit with Sec of State Kris Kobach and his staff searched for all the records, then Ry Taitz did not Sask f=the judge for a court order for them. Its as if no one want the truth as it might lead to a cover up of three murders 50+ years ago and I knew the real dad and justice has not been done here Few seem to understand what an eye witness even is Everyone in Topeka Ks and community knew and the gossip frenzy turned deadly. Linda Joy Adams
Welcome to Citi Data Linda. I read your posts over at the 'Western Journalism' website. A very intriguing story indeed. Since you worked for the Social Security Administration back the 1960's and 1970's, I want to get your respective on this story below. This man thinks he has solved why he thinks Obama was issued Connecticut Social Security Card: Please comment when you finish reading. Thanks.


Sven Magnussen: The Holy Grail of Proof Obama is not Eligible
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:58 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Nope. What he is saying is that a 'statutory' citizen (bestowed by man's pen) can never be a 'natural born' citizen (bestowed by God/nature).


Because the concept of being a citizen of a nation is of course part of nature, eh?
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:20 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Nope. What he is saying is that a 'statutory' citizen (bestowed by man's pen) can never be a 'natural born' citizen (bestowed by God/nature).
God didn't make you or me or anyone else a citizen ("natural born" or otherwise) - nor did Nature. The LAW did.


Ken
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:44 AM
 
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God didn't make you or me or anyone else a citizen ("natural born" or otherwise) - nor did Nature. The LAW did.


Ken
What's the difference between 'Natural Law' and 'Positive Law'?
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