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Old 01-21-2013, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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With their current platform of being anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-minorities, anti-immigrant, anti-poor people, pro -military and most importantly pro-obstructionist , the party of "no", the party of "do nothing"---- I don't think the GOP has a chance to regain the White House until they make some major changes.
Another ignorant post. Almost every cliche imaginable was thrust into that one post.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Exactly, this country won't survive another 30 or 40 years if Democrats continue to rack up trillions on top of trillions in debt. After 30 more years of this type of spending this country will favor the new Chinese owners.
If the GOP does not grow a pair and save the country from $20 trillion in debt, we may not survive much past this next four years.

Hey liberals and democrats!!!! You wanna help us out here, or is it all blind partisanship with you guys?


Democrat #1 "OMG!!! The bus is going to go over the cliff, we are all gonna die!!!! Who is driving this thing????"

Democrat #2 There's a Democrat at the wheel."

Democrat #1 "Oh, then I guess that makes it okay then."
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:35 PM
 
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YAY...............BRAVO Demor***.......you win!

Nothing to do with the good of the country. It is all about establishing more of their very unworkable ideology, amassing/consolidating power, staying in power and feathering their nests.

Sadly the Republir*** are not much different and as a topper they wimper any time the Demor*** throw any bile their way.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:40 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Not possible --- we simply cannot add $2 trillion or more every year to the national debt. .

We won't. First, as the economy continues adding 150k monthly jobs as it has 24 months or so, and GDP grows 2% or so per year, revenues will rise. Second, we have post baby boom not one, but constant baby busts. Right now a bust is supporting a retiring boom, but 20 years from now, when one baby bust follows another baby bust, our active worker/retiree ratio will be healthier, lowering the burden of retiree costs on active employees.

Finally, if we get via the above to say 500-800 bill flat deficits per year, with a growing GDP, we'd be little different than healthy corps who operate with credit lines that consistently rise over time, as revenues do.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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What might be nice is if we could get rid of the need to have an "election year" and instead shrink it down to a few months. As well as disallow Corporate money to go into any politicians wallet, while we are at it lets instead PUBLICLY FUND elections so as we can free up the politicians time instead of them spending 3-4hrs a day fund raising and also cut out the influence of Big money that I think would help us out a lot more. Not only that but if you publicly fund elections there will be no way to hide fraud AND you can actually get more 3rd parties involved instead of needing millions to become a candidate. Another thing that would be nice is if you are a under performing House Rep or Senator you will be primaried and not just any stupid bill either something that is actually helpful for the COUNTRY and not the politicians cronies.

But either dem or republican I seriously doubt this will happen anytime soon sadly


How will you prevent the rewarding of special interest lap dogs after they leave office?

As it stands today, politicians cannot be rewarded for screwing the people while in office, but those who pull their strings more than make up for this missed opportunity once they leave office.

You can make all the rules you like for currently serving office holders, but if all they have to do is wait until their term is up to bring in millions upon millions as a reward for their loyal service while in office, the rules will mean nothing.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:47 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Because it's their constitutional right not to given their religious conviction. Most businesses would support it, many already have benefits for same-sex domestic partners. Some though, such as Hobby .
Than Hobby Hypocrite Lobby should refuse the tax advantages that same so called evil government affords Employer Health Insurance. Pay for it strictly with post tax profits (meaning profits reported should exclude treating employer part as an expense), and employees pay their share with post tax income, as well as Flex Med post tax. OK?
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:00 PM
 
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The GOP is nearly guaranteed to hold the House for at least the next 10 years because of redistricting. Additionally, there are about 14 vulenerable Senate Democrats up for re-election in 2014. This means that Democrats cannot be expected to support every proposal put forth by Obama. None of them are willing to spend political capital and risk losing an election. That puts Obama on a very wobbly footing. This is particularly true in the gun control debate, but is applicable to quite a few other initiatives that Obama is expected to seek. The last thing he needs is a rowdy, uncooperative Senate to complement the House.

Should the Senate go to GOP control, Barack Obama might as well take a 2 year vacation. And his predecessor? If it's a Democrat, good luck getting anything done.

The point is that the OP is pretty much a dream-world scenario. The power rests with Congress....not the President.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:03 PM
 
Location: NJ
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[quote=AeroGuyDC;27879518. Additionally, there are about 14 vulenerable Senate Democrats up for re-election in 2014..[/quote]


Dems had 21 vulnerable for 2012 as of Jan, 2012. How'd that work out for you?
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:31 PM
 
Location: NJ
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By 2024 Texas is blue..38 electoral votes. The OP if anything underestimated how likely one party national rule is going forward without serious changes within the GOP.

Demographics will rule America for the rest of the lives of anyone old enough to have voted a few times by now.
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:42 AM
 
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Anti-abortion isn't anti-woman.
Anti-gay marriage isn't anti-gay.
Anti-affirmative action isn't anti-minority.
Anti-illegal immigration isn't anti-immigration.
Anti-multigenerational welfare isn't anti-poor.
Anti-Obama isn't pro-obstructionist.
Obama's campaign focused on stiring up hate and resentment - divide the voters into little niche voting groups based on misinformation and then win them over.
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