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Bigotry is illegal in Oregon. The law covers the same action if he did it to blacks, jews, or christians.
Using the bible to hate perverts gods word of love for his creations. This man should be ashamed.
The Bible does call homosexuality an abomination. Certainly, you should be made aware of that.
Secondly, the man's views are protected under the first amendment. The state is to not interfere into the affairs of religion. Rather, religion can be invoked in the affairs of the state, for even the first supreme court justice claimed that law is derived from divine law. They cannot be separated.
You can't force someone to do something that goes against their religious beliefs.
By the way, it sounds like you don't know the Bible very well. God would not be upset with someone refusing to condone homosexuality and to pervert the institution of marriage.
The Bible does call homosexuality an abomination. Certainly, you should be made aware of that.
Secondly, the man's views are protected under the first amendment. The state is to not interfere into the affairs of religion. Rather, religion can be invoked in the affairs of the state, for even the first supreme court justice claimed that law is derived from divine law. They cannot be separated.
You can't force someone to do something that goes against their religious beliefs.
By the way, it sounds like you don't know the Bible very well. God would not be upset with someone refusing to condone homosexuality and to pervert the institution of marriage.
Come on! Seriously?
Baking and offering up cakes for sale to the public is not an affair of religion.
This is a good example of why many Muslims believe the West is "wrong" and Islam is "right". In Islam, religion is not something to be left outside of business in a separate compartment of one's life.
And that's why any place Islam is dominant, the country is a barbaric, archaic cesspool.
It's illegal because the law says it is. It's as simple as that.
You may think the law shouldn't say that, but the fact that it does is a fact. The law also says it's illegal for a business open to the public to discriminate against straight people, or black people, or white people, or Christian people.
Different situation - different ethic. One is a private person making a private decision, the other is a person engaging in regulated, public commerce.
what on earth is "public commerce?" are you referring to a privately owned business, on private property?
Baking and offering up cakes for sale to the public is not an affair of religion.
I agree. Thus, it's silly why anyone would even make an issue of this.
I was making the point that a lot of people like to say separation of church and state, when in reality, it doesn't imply that people can't invoke religion in government, only that the government can't prohibit religion, or establish one church over another. Even then, this is a private matter, and would even less be a matter having to do with constitutionality.
Actually it doesn't, seeing as "abomination" is not the meaning of the Hebrew.
What is the meaning of the Hebrew, then?
It does say you shall not lie with a man as a man does so with a woman. It talks about people giving over to lustful desires and trading the normal for the unnormal, paraphrased.
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Yes you can. If your religious beliefs say you can't allow black people in your restaurant, the law says you can be sued and will lose.
That's the thing. There are no religious beliefs that say that. Furthermore, our system of law was founded upon divine law as established in the Bible. Even our own founders stated this so much.
Let's also stop with the nonsense that not approving or condoning of homosexuality is hatred, since God is anti-hatred, in the way you're arguing. Thus, someone following the Bible by not condoning homosexuality, which God is against, can't be hating.
It does say you shall not lie with a man as a man does so with a woman. It talks about people giving over to lustful desires and trading the normal for the unnormal, paraphrased.
That's the thing. There are no religious beliefs that say that. Furthermore, our system of law was founded upon divine law as established in the Bible. Even our own founders stated this so much.
Let's also stop with the nonsense that not approving or condoning of homosexuality is hatred, since God is anti-hatred, in the way you're arguing. Thus, someone following the Bible by not condoning homosexuality, which God is against, can't be hating.
So, you and some christians think that your bible should be a ruler to be used against all people? Even those who are not christians? Is that fair? Please tell me why your bible and your god should have precedent over all other religions and all people. We are not a theocracy and should remain secular to keep religion from forcing their beliefs upon the population in toto. When someone uses their bible to instill hate and force laws on people, yes it is using it to condone hatred. Why do so many christians hate, I thought they were about love. That is why I am not religious, all the hate and anger they instill.
So, you and some christians think that your bible should be a ruler to be used against all people? Even those who are not christians? Is that fair? Please tell me why your bible and your god should have precedent over all other religions and all people. We are not a theocracy and should remain secular to keep religion from forcing their beliefs upon the population in toto. When someone uses their bible to instill hate and force laws on people, yes it is using it to condone hatred. Why do so many christians hate, I thought they were about love. That is why I am not religious, all the hate and anger they instill.
the constitution is our bible, and it should protect the business owner.
The Bible does call homosexuality an abomination. Certainly, you should be made aware of that.
Secondly, the man's views are protected under the first amendment. The state is to not interfere into the affairs of religion. Rather, religion can be invoked in the affairs of the state, for even the first supreme court justice claimed that law is derived from divine law. They cannot be separated.
You can't force someone to do something that goes against their religious beliefs.
By the way, it sounds like you don't know the Bible very well. God would not be upset with someone refusing to condone homosexuality and to pervert the institution of marriage.
Come on! Seriously?
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