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Old 08-13-2013, 02:58 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Anyone in Cali need some ammo? I'll make the run, if I get enough clients.
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Old 08-13-2013, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Anyone in Cali need some ammo? I'll make the run, if I get enough clients.
On the local shooters message board here in NV, there's been discussion about all the CA folks might come to Las Vegas and deplete our supplies. I'm stocked well enough for now, and being that I live in a state that isn't going to criminalize buying ammo online, I'm not too worried about it. Let the local shops jack their prices up for the non-locals... That's more money going into the local economy.
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Old 08-13-2013, 03:42 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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If I pay $1,000 for a gun, and later on I am (for whatever reason) legally disqualified from possessing it, is it fair for the state to come and remove that possession without any compensation whatsoever?

I'm all for keeping weapons (ANY weapon, not just guns) out of the hands of violent criminals, but confiscation without just compensation is unfair. If the state wants to take the gun, they should be required to pay fair market value for it. If they don't want to pay for it, they should hold it in an escrow of sorts, until it can be sold with the proceeds going to the original owner.

The state doesn't come and take your car away forever and without compensation because you had your driver license suspended or revoked. Being disqualified from owning a gun should be no different.
This is the real crux of things. See, when CA banned "assault rifles, using certain features as criteria, i.e. muzzle brakes, bayonet lugs, pistol grips, hi cap mags, there were an estimated 500,000 of such rifles in private hands in the state. These were supposed to be surrendered under the law. Without compensation, of course. The number actually surrendered was estimated at 1%. So, not to many folks complied. Gee, when was that? Late 80s I believe. Restrictions are worse now, with standard mags for such rifles, 20&30 rounders, now being illegal to posess, even if someone has no rifle to put them in. They are contraband.

This new push, going on now, is less about getting weapons away crom bad guys, and more about going fishing. It just gives the state authority to smash and grab. They better raise taxes again to fund more prisons. They will be able to fill them up just with formerly legal gun owners alone. Maybe thats the idea.

CA has not been known, of late, to be friendly to the second amendment. Yet, the firearms industry spends tons of money there. Some of the largest competitions in the biggest shooting sports still happen there as well. ICORE, USPSA have huge events there. Interestingly enough, standard USPSA guns have been illegal there for a long time. I don't get it.

I have good friends who I shoot with who live in CA. I do not wish the CA shooting community any ill will. But, I still, firmly, believe that national and international shooting clubs should pull tbe big events OUT of CA. Going to a shooting event there feels like crossing into an old Soviet bloc nation. If you get pulled over heading to the USPSA nationals, or even the IRCs, and you have a holster in the seat, or anything tbat says you have guns in your rig, it's likely a way will be found to confiscate them. Even ic it needz to be made up on scene. Tbis happened to a friend of mine. "Transport violation " was claimed, and he lost a $4000.00 race gun. Welcome to CA.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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more reason we need to build a fence, and give to mexico...
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:30 PM
 
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Thumbs down on this.
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Most gun violence is with hand guns. I smell agenda. If the Constitution is abridged in one state, all states are fair game
So, what will the police and the military use?
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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commieforina, where illegal immigrates are treated better then gun owners.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:05 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Every day I wake up here in Texas, I am glad that I had the good sense years ago to leave California... I don't miss it a bit.
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:54 AM
 
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Actually, I have a prediction to make.

The first state that actually passes a loony tunes law like that, will be the first state to see a 80% decrease in population.

They will all move to another state.



I had this same thought.
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:56 AM
 
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State Rights!.. Until we don't like what they're doing...



Uhh, The Right of the People..."
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