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Old 02-19-2013, 07:48 AM
 
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... the extent some will go to in order to convince themselves that Bush didn't make a titanic foul-up with his Iraq invasion.
So, you think the UN Security Council was wrong when they unanimously approved Resolution 1441 and confirmed Iraq was in material breach of its disarmament obligations?
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:48 AM
 
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Wrong. What part about Clinton, UNSCOM, and the UN Security Council told the supposed "lies" about Iraq's WMDs do you not understand?

Resolution 1441. Read it:
Full text: UN security council resolution 1441 on Iraq
I see, now it's all clinton's fault? W and his cabinet flat out lied and made up the whole WMD's BS to go to war with Iraq.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:51 AM
 
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For what? For believing what Clinton, UNSCOM, and the UN Security Council told them?

Saddam did have chemical weapons at the time Clinton took office but didn't maintain/renew them. Have Bush/Cheney ever thought that things can change in 10 years? Are they idiots without the ability to think for themselves?

Clinton obviously did not feel the need to invade Iraq!
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:03 AM
 
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So, you think the UN Security Council was wrong when they unanimously approved Resolution 1441 and confirmed Iraq was in material breach of its disarmament obligations?
I'll be honest here, although it may hurt some Bushophiles.

I don't give a crap about UN resolutions. And no one else does, either.

Bush cherry picked faulty intel when there was plenty that was accurate. He, Cheney, and Rice ran a deliberate campaign of disinformation to manufacture support for their invasion. They sucked in the public and quite a few members of congress.

Then, they horribly mismanaged the whole sordid affair. Iraq will always be remembered as one of the dumbest, worst conceived debacles in US history.

And it will always be attributed to Bush. Along with the quagmire he mismanaged in Afghanistan and the 2008 economic meltdown.

Sorry, but that's the reality.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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There isn't enough T & A in the world to entice me to watch that idiot.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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I see, now it's all clinton's fault? W and his cabinet flat out lied and made up the whole WMD's BS to go to war with Iraq.
W lied? No.

I'll let Clinton tell you in his own words...


President Clinton orders attack on Iraq - YouTube


Bill Clinton 1998 Iraq Liberation Act - YouTube

AND the UN Security Council unanimously approved Resolution 1441 acknowledging Iraq's material breach of its disarmament obligations, in November of 2002.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:41 AM
 
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I'll be honest here, although it may hurt some Bushophiles.

I don't give a crap about UN resolutions. And no one else does, either.

Bush cherry picked faulty intel
No. Bush believed the intel provided by Clinton, UNSCOM, and the UN as recently as November 2002. If any of that intel was faulty, Clinton, UNSCOM, and the UN need to answer for that.

Clinton in his own words as he signed the Iraq Liberation Act...


Bill Clinton 1998 Iraq Liberation Act - YouTube
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:47 AM
 
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Saddam did have chemical weapons at the time Clinton took office but didn't maintain/renew them. Have Bush/Cheney ever thought that things can change in 10 years?
It wasn't 10 years. The UN Security Council resolution acknowledging Iraq's material breach of its disarmament obligations was unanimously approved in November of 2002.

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Are they idiots without the ability to think for themselves?
So you agree, Democrats and the UN cannot be trusted.

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Clinton obviously did not feel the need to invade Iraq!
Clinton FAILED to achieve his goal of liberating Iraq before the end of his presidency. Bush achieved that goal. And yes, it took a MULTINATIONAL invasion to do so. The U.S. didn't act alone.

Clinton in his own words...


Bill Clinton 1998 Iraq Liberation Act - YouTube
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:50 AM
 
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W lied? No.

I'll let Clinton tell you in his own words...


President Clinton orders attack on Iraq - YouTube


Bill Clinton 1998 Iraq Liberation Act - YouTube

AND the UN Security Council unanimously approved Resolution 1441 acknowledging Iraq's material breach of its disarmament obligations, in November of 2002.
When did Clinton say they had WMD's?

Also that's amazing he wasn't even president, but ordered the war in iraq in 2001,...
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:54 AM
 
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Biden in HIS own words...
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The weapons inspectors said he had them. He catalogued—they catalogued them. This was not some, some Cheney, you know, pipe dream. This was, in fact, catalogued. They looked at them and catalogued.
MTP Transcript for April 29, 2007 - Meet the Press | NBC News
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