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Old 03-20-2013, 12:40 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Originally Posted by TheDragonslayer View Post
Denying us equal marriage...
What are the equal rights under the law that you are denied under "civil unions" that traditional "marriage" gives gays?

I would really like to know if there are rights they are denied if they have a civil union as opposed to being "married".

 
Old 03-20-2013, 12:42 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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They DO NOT CHOOSE to be gay anymore than one chooses to have green eyes or be left handed.
Really?

And do you have medical/scientific proof that one does not choose to be gay? Is homosexuality genetically linked? Is it inherited, like eye color?
 
Old 03-20-2013, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Austin
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THis thread is so long I havent been able to read all the posts. My opinion is if you choose to be different, you must accept consequences. Not everyone will agree. I don't think many people have a problem with gays in general. It is because 1%-3% of the population is trying to redefine marriage. How would you like if 2% of the country were Muslims and they tried to redefine marriage and they called everyone bigoted for disagreeing? What about multiple spouses? Do we have a right to deny someone that? I am sure a majority would disagree with multiple spouses. Marriage needs defining. When something isn't defined, it leaves all sorts of marriages open for debate.
If there was a law that said that Muslims couldn't marry one another, I would support them as well.
 
Old 03-20-2013, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Dallas area, Texas
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Really?

And do you have medical/scientific proof that one does not choose to be gay? Is homosexuality genetically linked? Is it inherited, like eye color?
Where is your scientific proof that it is a choice?
 
Old 03-20-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Where is your scientific proof that it is a choice?
I didn't make any claims. You did and I was inquiring into your proof. Don't have any?

That's OK. Neither does anyone else have any definitive proof.

from a link posted previously: There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors.
 
Old 03-20-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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People who believe that homosexuality is a choice are actually bisexual. They are physically attracted to both males and females, and at some point they decided which gender they would and would not have sex with. Many of these people who CHOOSE to be heterosexual often go on to bash homosexuals in order to justify/validate their decision, because they have lingering doubts. This is one reason why conventional wisdom says that homophobes are actually closet homosexuals.
 
Old 03-20-2013, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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I didn't make any claims. You did and I was inquiring into your proof. Don't have any?

That's OK. Neither does anyone else have any definitive proof.

from a link posted previously: There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors.
From http://www.apa.org/topics/sexuality/orientation.aspx

"Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about sexual orientation."
 
Old 03-20-2013, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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THis thread is so long I havent been able to read all the posts. My opinion is if you choose to be different, you must accept consequences.
You're kidding, right? That's funny....I don't remember choosing to be straight. Do you? How old were you when you decided to be hetero?
 
Old 03-20-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Really?

And do you have medical/scientific proof that one does not choose to be gay? Is homosexuality genetically linked? Is it inherited, like eye color?
One only need be a human to know sexual orientation/attraction is not a choice... unless you can tell us when you CHOSE to be straight, or CHOSE to be attracted to certain people. I can't do that, can you?
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