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View Poll Results: Poll: If you support the redifinition of marriage, do you support consentual insest?
Yes, I support consentual insest. 48 36.64%
No, I do not support consentual insest. 83 63.36%
Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-24-2013, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Yea, but he needs you.
I'm busy.

[minding my own]

 
Old 02-24-2013, 04:10 PM
 
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Mind your own business. If a GROWN father and son wish to marry, what business is it of yours?
Okay, at what point did this GROWN father and son begin their sexual relationship? When the son was five? Nine? Thirteen?

A father having sex with his minor child is abuse and against the law. It's not much better if the GROWN father somehow persuades his GROWN son to have sex with him.

Look at Mackenzie Philips and her father.

There is no comparison between that kind of effed up power trip relationship and an actual consenting relationship between two people.

I would also have issues with it if a male teacher tried to marry a student as soon as she turned 18, just because he can.

You cannot compare the two, they are not the same thing at ALL.
 
Old 02-24-2013, 04:12 PM
 
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Still waiting on the answer to big Gov or small Gov?
 
Old 02-24-2013, 04:13 PM
 
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Already been addressed 10 pages ago. If you're a lazy poster in one thread, will you be a lazy poster in another? Why, yes
My answer is "I don't think one necessitates the other".

Never mind the fact that I'm not really against you...marriage as I understand it is between a man and a woman.

If the LGBT community wants to call their various unions "marriage" as well, I'll just have to make it clear what I mean when I say I want to "marry" you. What I mean is, I want to "live the traditional man-wife lifestyle with you, hopefully resulting in our own offspring".

"Genetic marriage", if you will.
 
Old 02-24-2013, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Okay, at what point did this GROWN father and son begin their sexual relationship? When the son was five? Nine? Thirteen?

A father having sex with his minor child is abuse and against the law. It's not much better if the GROWN father somehow persuades his GROWN son to have sex with him.

Look at Mackenzie Philips and her father.

There is no comparison between that kind of effed up power trip relationship and an actual consenting relationship between two people.

I would also have issues with it if a male teacher tried to marry a student as soon as she turned 18, just because he can.

You cannot compare the two, they are not the same thing at ALL.
Exactly! Apples to kittens!
 
Old 02-24-2013, 04:25 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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Thread title says it all. If you support redefining marriage, do you support a mother marrying her daughter, if they both are consenting adults? Or a father and son? Why or why not? Thanks
How earth shattering would that be? I think it would be such a rare occurrence, nobody would notice. I wouldn't worry about it. If that's worst you could come up with, in order to oppose same sex marriage, I could live with it.
 
Old 02-24-2013, 04:30 PM
 
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I'd still like an answer as to how gay marriage will harm the mother of Sophia or anyone else.

If we are to go down the road of banning things we find "icky," I need to get working on my bill banning garlic, jean shorts and country music. Mother of Sophia has no evidence that gay marriage will harm anyone. She just doesn't like it so she is willing to have the state prohibit it and what small government advocate wouldn't support that principle? Bloomberg banning Big Gulps is offensive to freedom, but prohibiting adults from marrying who they choose is not. Got it? Good, you can explain it to me later.
 
Old 02-24-2013, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Thread title says it all. If you support redefining marriage, do you support a mother marrying her daughter, if they both are consenting adults? Or a father and son? Why or why not? Thanks
Redefine marriage? Marriage is simply what a society makes of it. 100's of years ago it was different. Marriage and the meaning of it have always changed to accommodate the societal norms. It has always been redefined time and time again so this lame argument of "don't let the gays redefine marriage" is idiotic. Logically, when a society accepts or at least acknowledges gay people have a right to live their lives as anyone else, of course marriage should made to include gays. As far as incest, no I don't agree or think it's right but guess what, it's not my burden to bear and to demonstrate if it should be legal or not.
 
Old 02-24-2013, 04:35 PM
 
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BTW, I hope this isn't off-topic, but nothing seems more "unnatural" over my years of observations of human behavior than monogamy. I have seen little indication that humans are naturally oriented towards having one mate and boatloads of first-hand observations that they are not. Actually, one of Christianity's roles that grew over time seems to be scaring and intimidating its followers into devoting themselves to one person to overcome this natural proclivity to have relations with more than one person.
 
Old 02-24-2013, 04:37 PM
 
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You're arguing something that cant be proven. Two gays cant have children. And two homosexuals in an incestuous relationship (Aunt/Niece, Father/Son etc.) cant have children either. There is no objective reason to be for one over the other, if you are against either.
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