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You mean like how all the holier than thou republicans keep trying to shove anti-abortion bills down everyone's throats ? Or how about the failed "no child left behind" we see how well that worked, you ever heard the saying "People shouldn't throw stones in glass houses" I think that is what the republicans in this country are doing, they took control wrecked the economy and nearly brought the u.s. to it's knees with it's failed policies and now that another person has come along to take over and is LESS bad than the last guy they freak out he's not doing the same failed policies.
Well, what you see as people living in a glass house throwing stones we are able to see more clearly because we do not have emotional investment in defending the Democratic party as you do when you say the Republicans wrecked the economy to avoid facing up to Obama's complete failure.
It's not a problem for us that the Democrats controlled congress from 2006 to 2010 and voted in all the policies they now blame on Bush. It's not our fault the stimulus was a failure. We didn't loan Solyndra 500 million dollars knowing it was failing. We didn't stop the keystone pipeline and all its wealth and jobs from coming to America. We didn't waste billions on a cash for clunkers program. We didn't rail against Bush bailouts, while incidentally voting for them, but then do our own bailouts as soon as we got the chance. We didn't let the oil spill go for weeks before doing anything to stop it. We didn't put a moratorium on drilling or get sued in federal court for not issuing drilling permits or lower permits for oil exploitation on federal land and then end up twice the gas price levels that we'd railed against Bush about, we didn't call raising the debt ceiling unpatriotic and then complain when Republicans didn't want to raise the debt ceiling, we didn't promise unemployment wouldn't go above 8%, we didn't say the deficit would be cut in half within four years, we didn't say we were willing to roll the dice on the housing bubble, we didn't propose the sequester and threaten to veto any attempt to get around it and then try to blame it on the other party when it turned out we didn't want it after all, we didn't fail to reduce the unemployment rate in four years, we didn't go year after year without bringing up a budget, we weren't forced to use reconciliation to pass our healthcare bill and have it cost double what we estimated. So you see we're not too concerned about throwing stones because we don't live in a glass house. We didn't do any of this. When we controlled the Presidency Democrats controlled both Houses of Congress and when we had control of one house of Congress Democrats controlled the Pesidency. We aren't in the position of trying to blame the President while we control Congress and then flip flopping and trying to blame Congress when we control the President.
You mean like how all the holier than thou republicans keep trying to shove anti-abortion bills down everyone's throats ? Or how about the failed "no child left behind" we see how well that worked, you ever heard the saying "People shouldn't throw stones in glass houses" I think that is what the republicans in this country are doing, they took control wrecked the economy and nearly brought the u.s. to it's knees with it's failed policies and now that another person has come along to take over and is LESS bad than the last guy they freak out he's not doing the same failed policies.
As long as stupid voters confuse anti-abortion (which there were none), and taxpayer funded abortion (which is a legitimate type of law, even if you personally disagree with it), we may just have Dems in the WH forever.
You can make a declaration, but that doesn't make it so. In fact, just like the uber-liberal FDR era spawned the ultra-conservative 50's, the pendulum will swing and libs will be shrieking about the GOP always being in power.
In just a few short years, mostly thanks to the millennial generation, America is becoming a center-left to leftist country. Obama is possibly the most beloved sitting President in all history, truly a celebrity to the highest degree. On the other hand, young people are completely and totally disgusted by conservative values especially on social issues. Conservatives have completely lost the culture war. The future for America is very gay and atheist and very unfriendly to anybody who openly champions Christianity or the nuclear family. Whether you believe that is a good thing or not is beside the point, its the truth and Americans are going to have to live with it or leave the country.
Anybody who doesn't support Obama, whatever the truth may be, is regarded by most young Americans are blabbering redneck trailer trash who hates blacks. I think we are looking at 20-30 years before somebody from a party other than the Democrats occupy the White House and in the next few election cycles Democrats will lock in a super majority in Congress that will last just as long.
When the time is right, a new party will rise up to challenge the Democrats. Lets hope the Constitution makes it long enough.
When the millenniums have no jobs and the ones with jobs are paying for the ones without jobs the pendulum will swing again
I tend to agree with the op though i think 30 years might be a bit of a stretch. I do think America has an atheist future ahead of it, which in my opinion can only be a bad thing.
True, I don't think we should've propped them up, than again what would've happened had they all collapsed ?
I still have never figured out why this type of defense often times is used. Just because they are no longer making record profits does not mean they go out of business. You will note that the article states that "most" of their profits are from taxpayers subsidies. This mean they do make some profit on their own. If you are making a profit you aren't going to collapse.
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Before you start casting stones about the "evil democrats" remember the bailout started under GWB and with bi-partisan support continued under obama. What I would have been more in favor of is after the bailouts we should've taken control of many of these failed companies and either broke them down to smaller companies or nationalized them instead and fired the ceo's and people directly under them.
I said "government". It is supported by both major parties but I will ask, even though you note that the current administration is not doing what is best, do you support them?
Here we have the typical conservative refrain. "Oh bo hoo hoo, poor me, I'm a victim of the big bad progressives". "Lost the culture war"? There should never be a culture war in the first place! What is the definition of the "Culture war" anyway? "I want my white Euorcentric, faux Christian culture to be recognized as the superior and default culture in these United States".
I have to tell you that as a Christian myself I deplore the American "Christian right". Other than the fact they claim to be Christians I have never seen one single iota of evidence in the lives of such that they actually are Christians in any way. In fact, in my opinion they are a sort of "AntiChristian" and tend to heap dung on the Gospel of Christ every time they open their mouths.
There are so many things in our common culture that I really hate. I hate gambling and all the damage that does, I hate abortion with a passion, I hate porn and what that is doing to an entire generation of people, I hate the me me me society we live in and the exaltation of the individual above all else, I dispise most of the mass entertainment and the values it promotes.
The difference between myself and a cultural warrior is that I realize that I live in a democracy not a Theocracy. WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WANT THEY ARE LIKELY TO GET WITHIN CONSTITUTIONAL LIMITS. I have zero desire to force my values down anyone's throat. The best we can do by far is, firstly to bring up our children in such a way that they will live moral and upright lives and in turn will do the same with their kids, {Maybe, not guaranteed by any stretch}. Then, we can live our own lives as an example of what we believe in. Some will see that and adopt those values and some will reject them. We can actually get out there and get our hands dirty in service to those values we believe in. The majority of those who moan and cry the loudest about the state of our society and culture, "Talk the talk but they sure don't walk the walk". The is no end of things a person can actually do in support of the values they hold but sadly most are just like a clanging set of Cymbals, making a lot of noise but nothing else.
In short... live and let live, practice what you preach, and keep your morality to yourself. I agree, and freedom is a b*** ain't it?
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Originally Posted by Harrier
Rick Santorum.
Good Lord. Why? I'm asking because I want to propose this scenario for you. For example, you're pro-pot. Santorum wouldn't actually be someone who would support legalization. I want the candidate that has our BEST interest when it comes to our individual liberties. Santorum, would NOT be that candidate.
Ever again? Like ever and ever? Nah, they will. But they'll have to find someone who appeals to the masses and has the "coolness" factor of Obama and can stand up to the relentless media attacks. Find that candidate and he or she will be elected.
In just a few short years, mostly thanks to the millennial generation, America is becoming a center-left to leftist country. Obama is possibly the most beloved sitting President in all history, truly a celebrity to the highest degree. On the other hand, young people are completely and totally disgusted by conservative values especially on social issues. Conservatives have completely lost the culture war. The future for America is very gay and atheist and very unfriendly to anybody who openly champions Christianity or the nuclear family. Whether you believe that is a good thing or not is beside the point, its the truth and Americans are going to have to live with it or leave the country.
Anybody who doesn't support Obama, whatever the truth may be, is regarded by most young Americans are blabbering redneck trailer trash who hates blacks. I think we are looking at 20-30 years before somebody from a party other than the Democrats occupy the White House and in the next few election cycles Democrats will lock in a super majority in Congress that will last just as long.
When the time is right, a new party will rise up to challenge the Democrats. Lets hope the Constitution makes it long enough.
In just a few short years, mostly thanks to the millennial generation, America is becoming a center-left to leftist country. Obama is possibly the most beloved sitting President in all history, truly a celebrity to the highest degree. On the other hand, young people are completely and totally disgusted by conservative values especially on social issues. Conservatives have completely lost the culture war. The future for America is very gay and atheist and very unfriendly to anybody who openly champions Christianity or the nuclear family. Whether you believe that is a good thing or not is beside the point, its the truth and Americans are going to have to live with it or leave the country.
Anybody who doesn't support Obama, whatever the truth may be, is regarded by most young Americans are blabbering redneck trailer trash who hates blacks. I think we are looking at 20-30 years before somebody from a party other than the Democrats occupy the White House and in the next few election cycles Democrats will lock in a super majority in Congress that will last just as long.
When the time is right, a new party will rise up to challenge the Democrats. Lets hope the Constitution makes it long enough.
Nevermind that President Bush had approval ratings at 91%, crushing any poularity that Obama enjoys. And Bush still lost an election a couple short years later. So Dems are gonna cintinue to win because of Obama? lols.
Nevermind that people under the age of 30 are now more pro-life than at any point since Roe v. Wade. The majority men under 30 are pro-life and women are not far behind.
The future of America is very gay and atheist. lols. Gays make up about 3% of the poulation and atheists less than that. No reason in the world to think that is going to change. They are both insignificant groups politically. They just don't matter at all politically.
Nice try thread though. Good for you.
Too bad it ignores all of human history and is based on nothing more than fantasy.
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I'm asking because I want to propose this scenario for you. For example, you're pro-pot. Santorum wouldn't actually be someone who would support legalization. I want the candidate that has our BEST interest when it comes to our individual liberties. Santorum, would NOT be that candidate.
