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Well, what you see as people living in a glass house throwing stones we are able to see more clearly because we do not have emotional investment in defending the Democratic party as you do when you say the Republicans wrecked the economy to avoid facing up to Obama's complete failure.
It's not a problem for us that the Democrats controlled congress from 2006 to 2010 and voted in all the policies they now blame on Bush. It's not our fault the stimulus was a failure. We didn't loan Solyndra 500 million dollars knowing it was failing. We didn't stop the keystone pipeline and all its wealth and jobs from coming to America. We didn't waste billions on a cash for clunkers program. We didn't rail against Bush bailouts, while incidentally voting for them, but then do our own bailouts as soon as we got the chance. We didn't let the oil spill go for weeks before doing anything to stop it. We didn't put a moratorium on drilling or get sued in federal court for not issuing drilling permits or lower permits for oil exploitation on federal land and then end up twice the gas price levels that we'd railed against Bush about, we didn't call raising the debt ceiling unpatriotic and then complain when Republicans didn't want to raise the debt ceiling, we didn't promise unemployment wouldn't go above 8%, we didn't say the deficit would be cut in half within four years, we didn't say we were willing to roll the dice on the housing bubble, we didn't propose the sequester and threaten to veto any attempt to get around it and then try to blame it on the other party when it turned out we didn't want it after all, we didn't fail to reduce the unemployment rate in four years, we didn't go year after year without bringing up a budget, we weren't forced to use reconciliation to pass our healthcare bill and have it cost double what we estimated. So you see we're not too concerned about throwing stones because we don't live in a glass house. We didn't do any of this. When we controlled the Presidency Democrats controlled both Houses of Congress and when we had control of one house of Congress Democrats controlled the Pesidency. We aren't in the position of trying to blame the President while we control Congress and then flip flopping and trying to blame Congress when we control the President.
Let me summarize your post for everyone, NOT OUR FAULT, IT'S THE DEMOCRATS ! so much for your personal responsibility instead of blaming the democrats for what is wrong with this economy and posting false information that has been continually debunked how about you acknowledge BUSH WAS A FAILURE, YOUR PARTIES IDEAS ARE FAILURES, But I know you will never do that instead you will keep on with this bs nonsense that it is everyone else's fault. And FYI BUSH F@CKED US ! Do you think that recovering from a near complete economic collapse is something so easy and something so simple that it takes no time at all to recover from it.
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As long as stupid voters confuse anti-abortion (which there were none), and taxpayer funded abortion (which is a legitimate type of law, even if you personally disagree with it), we may just have Dems in the WH forever.
You can make a declaration, but that doesn't make it so. In fact, just like the uber-liberal FDR era spawned the ultra-conservative 50's, the pendulum will swing and libs will be shrieking about the GOP always being in power.
Uhuh there were no anti-abortion bills right, so you mean the plan of defunding or just making it that much harder for a woman/girl to get an abortion is not anti-abortion ? How about alabama I believe it was closing down there one and only abortion clinic ? How about all these anti-science personood bills the republicans worked hard to force through ? I hope the gop dies off with there old and outdated ideas. They are embarrassments to this country and should be ashamed of themselves!!
I still have never figured out why this type of defense often times is used. Just because they are no longer making record profits does not mean they go out of business. You will note that the article states that "most" of their profits are from taxpayers subsidies. This mean they do make some profit on their own. If you are making a profit you aren't going to collapse.
True while they may not have been going out of business they were still veering rather dangerously towards that way. I still say they should've been broken up, the fact that this administration has not done so shows how far right Obama really is. He's center right when it comes to fiscal policies but when it comes to social his still more center right.
I said "government". It is supported by both major parties but I will ask, even though you note that the current administration is not doing what is best, do you support them?
Only to a certain extent, but honestly I feel obama and his administration have been very weak and too business friendly. After all he had geithner who was from Goldman sachs, and now he has jack lew who himself is also entangled pretty closely with wall street.
In just a few short years, mostly thanks to the millennial generation, America is becoming a center-left to leftist country. Obama is possibly the most beloved sitting President in all history, truly a celebrity to the highest degree. On the other hand, young people are completely and totally disgusted by conservative values especially on social issues. Conservatives have completely lost the culture war. The future for America is very gay and atheist and very unfriendly to anybody who openly champions Christianity or the nuclear family. Whether you believe that is a good thing or not is beside the point, its the truth and Americans are going to have to live with it or leave the country.
Anybody who doesn't support Obama, whatever the truth may be, is regarded by most young Americans are blabbering redneck trailer trash who hates blacks. I think we are looking at 20-30 years before somebody from a party other than the Democrats occupy the White House and in the next few election cycles Democrats will lock in a super majority in Congress that will last just as long.
When the time is right, a new party will rise up to challenge the Democrats. Lets hope the Constitution makes it long enough.
Giant proclamations like this have been made many times before by both sides of the political spectrum. And they never hold true. I think it is fundamentally due to the corruption and power thirst all politicians develop in Washington. They win a big majority, and think they have a giant mandate to do what they want, instead of doing what is smart. So the tide eventually turns again.
I think the GOP will evolve by necessity. At the same time, the policies the Dems put in place will generally not be successful restoring prosperity. Even millenials will see the effects of a bloated government that takes too much of their earnings. And when social issues become less important to the GOP, some of the millenials will change their vote.
Do you know whar everyone on this forum is missing big time? It really doesn't matter a whole lot wether it's a Republican or a Democrat government that you elect. The USA has a problem that no politician will be able to solve.
Since the end of WW2 the USA has been living far beyond it's means. It has consummed the lion's share or the resources of the entire world and those days are beginning to be over.
Empires rise and then they fall. The writing is on the wall for the American empire. There is coming a time soon in the world and it's already hear to a degree where other big developing countries are no longer going to accept the fact that the USA is the first power on the planet. They are competing harder than ever for their share of global wealth. They are taking a huge share of economic development, jobs and everything else. The USA can not compete with them in so many ways and it won't for a long time or maybe ever.
If the USA does not reinvent it's self, it's economy, it's foreign policy, it's politics, it is just going to be a long gradual slide to the bottom. Take a look at some of the other former "World powers" that have declined with the changing of history. In some like the UK and France the average man lives far better than they did while their country controlled and owned most of the world. In other countries like Spain the country sufered greatly with the collapse of their empire and did not begin to recover until the 1970s.
It's a chioce America will have to make. Will we become more self sufficient and begin to rely more on our own resounces and labour or will we continue to rely on the rest of the world to supply us with what we need and continue the downward sprial.
It's very telling that during the Bush administration a huge % of the growth in the American economy was a massive ponzi scheme. Something like 40% of the growth was in financial instruments like credit default swaps, mortgage backed securities and many other scams. This is the desperate gasping of a once vibrant economy that has lost the ability to acchieve healthy growth. Does it not see strange that one of the biggest industries in the USA is gambing? What kind of true value does that create. America's biggest export to the world is now and has been for a long while entertainment. That is truely pathetic.
The country has become a culture of shoppers, dedicated to using what little resousces they have to buy junk at Walmart that is mostly made in China. How will that fact ever help the USA one single little bit. Add to that fact that a huge % of Americans claim to be against communism to the uttermost degree and then there you are supporting 100% the biggest communist population ever seen.
Add to all of this is the culture of greed in the executive class that has never before in world history been seen. So many captains of industry and finance who desire above all to be just like King Midas. These are your leaders in economic development for the nation and has it has been seen very very clearly they don't give a rat's azz about America or Americans. If they can get more gold by selling out an entire town or region or by getting rid of tens of thousands of American workers and transfer the whole shooting match to some third world hell hole, THEY WILL.
So, you Americans continue to complain and gripe about the right or the left when in reality neither of them have any kind of solution for what is ailing the USA. This blame game minus serious changes in the entire structure of the economics of the country guaranteed failure.
Let me summarize your post for everyone, NOT OUR FAULT, IT'S THE DEMOCRATS ! so much for your personal responsibility instead of blaming the democrats for what is wrong with this economy and posting false information that has been continually debunked how about you acknowledge BUSH WAS A FAILURE, YOUR PARTIES IDEAS ARE FAILURES, But I know you will never do that instead you will keep on with this bs nonsense that it is everyone else's fault. And FYI BUSH F@CKED US ! Do you think that recovering from a near complete economic collapse is something so easy and something so simple that it takes no time at all to recover from it.
Uhuh there were no anti-abortion bills right, so you mean the plan of defunding or just making it that much harder for a woman/girl to get an abortion is not anti-abortion ? How about alabama I believe it was closing down there one and only abortion clinic ? How about all these anti-science personood bills the republicans worked hard to force through ? I hope the gop dies off with there old and outdated ideas. They are embarrassments to this country and should be ashamed of themselves!!
Amen Deadspeak - AMEN. Republicans are unable to accept responsibility for their own actions - that led us here. They claim they would not try to overturn Roe V. Wade - but their members are busy trying to do that very thing.
Most of America has no desire to return to the 1950's ~ something the Pubs can't seem to figure out.
Why are they not embracing Chris Christie? His approval rating as a Republican is HUGE - while the overall party rating is in the 20 percent range. His voting record is conservative - yet they exclude him from their conference because they are 'MAD'. Seriously. This is their maturity level; like second graders stomping their feet. People see that. And they are not impressed.
I think the Republican Party will notice these changes and make adjustments.
No, not really. They'll vet another candidate like willard who will tell people anything they want to hear, and then tell another crowd of people something different.
Yes because the bottom feeders forced the hand of the ceo's in goldman sachs and other banks to play fast and loose with billions of over people's money right ? Who bought your cheerleading outfit for you AIG ?
People who do not study history are bound to repeat it. If people made these same predictions in the 1930s, then we would have never had Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, or Reagan.
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