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Species that exist today didn't exist in the past. And species from the past are no longer present today.
That's what I'm talking about.
Species die out. New species are also being found, not b/c they might be new but b/c they are new TO US.
Just like they say there is an increase in the incidence of autism. That doesn't necessarily mean there are more autistic people, it means there are more kids getting diagnosed and as such, can be counted.
This educated person does and any thinking person should do the same.
Don't be a robot. Search for evidence. When the evidence is lacking, the only sensible course of action is to dismiss the theory.
You should take your own advice, old bean.
There is no evidence whatsoever, discovered by science, natural or medical, support the existance of a god, a soul or creationism as set forth in the bible, koran, talmud, or anywhere else.
None, nill, zero.
An educated, rational person, in the fact of such facts, despire his fear of mortality, would give up sucn a ludicrous "belief".
The support of evolution is as yet incomplete, true, but it is infinitely more-substantial that what passes for support of your "beliefs".
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There is no evidence whatsoever, discovered by science, natural or medical, support the existance of a god, a soul or creationism as set forth in the bible, koran, talmud, or anywhere else.
None, nill, zero.
An educated, rational person, in the fact of such facts, despire his fear of mortality, would give up sucn a ludicrous "belief".
The support of evolution is as yet incomplete, true, but it is infinitely more-substantial that what passes for support of your "beliefs".
Brave up and face mortality like a Man.
We aren't discussing God or the creation old bean, we are discussing the teaching of evolution in public schools.
Why can't you understand that?
Deflection from the topic is not a valid argumentation strategy.
Discussing creationism has nothing to do with the validity of the theory of evolution - which if valid - should stand on its own two feet.
Not to anybody who isn't trying desperately to retrofit the Bible into a modern cosmology that is alien to it.
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If Job 26:10 were referring to the edge of a flat earth, it wouldn't state that it is a boundary between light and darkness - it would describe a precipice. In a flat earth scenario, such a "boundary: would serve multiple purposes.
Unless you have the Holy Spirit sitting on your shoulder, it's a bit presumptuous of you to tell the authors of the Bible what they should have written, don't you think?
That said, there can be no precipice in the flat earth model. There is instead the solid wall where the solid dome of the firmament meets the earth. That's why the sun has to pass through the windows of heaven to spend the night underneath the solid disc of the flat earth. Otherwise, it would be stuck inside the firmament and we would never have night.
As to the "multiple purposes" the horizon would serve, who cares. The author of Job only bothered to mention the one.
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Instead it refers to the horizon being the "boundary between light and darkness" which can only mean one thing - a moving line demarcating where the sun is shining on the earth's surface due to the rotation of the earth.
Be serious. Nothing in the Bible "can only mean on thing." Now Job says nothing about a moving anything. And the horizon doesn't move. I challenge you to stand on the beach and watch the horizon. Tell me when it moves. Remember... the horizon is not a boundary between anything except what you can see and what you can't.
Now the actual boundary between night and day is called the terminator. And it certainly moves, but not in anyway having anything to do with the horizon. While you're sitting on that beach waiting for the horizon to move, the teminator will pass right over you... and you will be nowhere near the horizon at the time.
However, if the earth was flat, only then would the horizon always be the boundary between light and dark. And it would change from night to day on each side depending whether or not the sun was above the disc or below it.
I have to actually thank you for bringing Job 26:10 to my attention. I'm always looking for good examples to prove how scientifically incompetent the Bible is. This was one I never noticed, and it's a good one.
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Furthermore, the verse is describing an aspect of God's creation. Since we know that the earth is spherical, it is also clear that the writers of the Bible agreed that it was spherical as well.
That statement is more than merely circular. It's a veritable Kline Bottle of impossibly illogical topology.
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Ignorant people deviated from the truth, twisting the plain language of the Bible over time, and the funny thing is that today the same thing is done by atheists in their foolish attempts to discredit the Bible.
The Bible describes a spherical Earth - that is a fact.
Wrong again. The Bible is a flat earth book from cover to cover.
And now we're 700+ posts into this, and the anti-science, anti-fact brigade is still refusing to accept facts and instead asserting that what they wish to be true actually has some basis in reality.
The mental gymnastics and faulty reasoning employed are truly amazing. They must be surprised every morning by which direction the sun rises.
It takes quite the lack of intellectual curiosity to reject all evidence gathered over centuries of careful study and instead choose to rely on simple myths written by some dudes in the desert who had little to no factual information to go on.
Yes, human and chimpanzees are of different kinds. A human and a chimpanzee cannot produce fertile offspring, and, besides, its bestiality and a clear violation of God's Word.
All the great apes are of different kinds.
Correct....There are five species of great apes...Gorillas, Orangutans, Chimpanzees, Bonobos and Humans.
How is the flu vaccine evidence of evolution? The influenza virus is still the influenza virus, not something else.
Again, there are no fossils that demonstrate evolution, also known as macroevolution.
Natural Laws came from God.
All fossils demonstrate evolution.
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