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Old 03-20-2013, 04:00 PM
 
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They are going after some of the adults too. I saw this announcement earlier...something about cover-ups and text messages, fixing "things" etc. The Steubenville Coach Has Joe Paterno Problems - Alexander Abad-Santos - The Atlantic Wire

Who's in Trouble Next in Steubenville? - Alexander Abad-Santos - The Atlantic Wire
One suspects that part of the reason that the two perpetrators got off (relatively) lightly was because they agreed to name names. If Saccoccia is as involved in this as he seems to be - well, no being tried as a juvenile for him. Apparently in Ohio his position makes him a "mandatory reporter" - when working with young people in a professional capacity, you have a legal obligation to report suspected abuse.

We'll see how long it takes the good-old-boy network to abandon him to his fate. There's undoubtedly a massive amount of damage control happening right now.
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Does anyone know why these boys were not tried as adults?
Because they are not adults.
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Because they are not adults.
....And?
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:02 PM
 
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Does anyone know why these boys were not tried as adults?
I wondered about that too--the rapists are 16 and 17. They're really young and if the goal is to rehabilitate them, that's pretty tough to do if they put them in prison with adult offenders. I'm not saying that I agree, but I'm guessing that might be the reasoning.

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Old 03-20-2013, 04:03 PM
 
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Normally? I pity any children you might have if you think it's alright for 16 year olds to get plastered and stay out all night without any parental supervision and expect nothing bad can ever happen to them.
I pity you if you think anything in the post you quoted indicates that the poster thinks it's alright for 16 year olds to get plastered and stay out all night without any parental supervision and expect nothing bad can ever happen to them.
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Soldotna
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No it isn't.
Yea it is.

The law makes no distinctions between innocent or not guilty.

As far as the law is concerned both are equal.

Legally, the innocent person is equal to the person that did the crime but was found not guilty.

Equal...
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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....And?
And they are not adults.

Personally, I think it is stupid to try kids as adults since they are not adults.

Apparently the State agreed with me this time.
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:06 PM
 
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There's no such thing as being "found innocent". A defendant may be found "not guilty", and that's a different kettle of fish altogether.
Ah, you're right. My argument that we presume innocence still stands though.
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Soldotna
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And they are not adults.

Personally, I think it is stupid to try kids as adults since they are not adults.

Apparently the State agreed with me this time.
Ohio only mandates trying juveniles as adults at 16 if the charge is murder.
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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And they are not adults.

Personally, I think it is stupid to try kids as adults since they are not adults.
And I think it's stupid that two teens on the verge of being an adult get off so easy on a techicality, because they weren't tried as an adult.

They should've been tried as adults, and they should've gotten severe penalties.

THis isn't a "kids will be kids", this is two young men raping a young woman and videotaping and laughing about it.

Their punishment is a slap on a wrist.
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