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Old 03-22-2013, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Does your state not have a high risk pool? Not every state offers it, but I believe more than half do.
35 states run their own high risk pools.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:26 PM
 
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So what is the alternative? Back to 2008?

NO isn't a solution.

Serious question. Have you paid any attention to what has been coming out about Obamacare and the impact it is going to have? Any attention to the tons of new rules and regs? If you had, you would be concerned about its impact on businesses, on people, on our economy, and on our quality of care.

Passing a pile of garbage is not better than what we had before. What we had before was not perfect and needed improvements. But to replace that with Obamacare is asinine.

The alternative is to repeal Obamacare and have a serious discussion about improvements that can be made to what we had before.

How many times does it have to be said? Obamacare was NEVER about helping those who couldnt get insurance.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:30 PM
 
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Serious question. Have you paid any attention to what has been coming out about Obamacare and the impact it is going to have? Any attention to the tons of new rules and regs? If you had, you would be concerned about its impact on businesses, on people, on our economy, and on our quality of care.

Passing a pile of garbage is not better than what we had before. What we had before was not perfect and needed improvements. But to replace that with Obamacare is asinine.

The alternative is to repeal Obamacare and have a serious discussion about improvements that can be made to what we had before.

How many times does it have to be said? Obamacare was NEVER about helping those who couldnt get insurance.
Funny I seem to recall all kinds of Congressional hearings and people testifying who had been denied healthcare insurance or been dropped when their child became ill.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:30 PM
 
Location: mancos
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with a 28 hour work week the new norm everyone will be employed,at both jobs.The new obama world.Work a few weekends to pay your fine and your the new middle class
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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It would be nice to have a serious discussion. There was one last time. But some would not discuss, only say NO.

As far as going back to 2008 that was simply not working at all. The private insurance products were offering less each year, excluding an increasing number of people and rapidly losing a lot of customers.

In truth, Obamacare is the crutch propping up these insurance companies today. As I've written before its their lifeline. Without it they'll fold.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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I was denied health care insurance, I am not lying. Maybe it depends on the details of one's particular case. If it wasn't a problem with people with pre-existing conditions to get healthcare insurance than that would never have been an issue. And it was a HUGE issue. Also, if the premiums are so high that they are unaffordable, that's no help either.

Obamacare will guarantee affordable insurance because of the health care exchanges, or else depending on your income, the government will assist you with health insurance payments.
I know someone who had breast cancer (double mastectomy) and part of her divorce settlement was that her ex would continue paying her ins premiums b/c they were so high and he had significantly more income than she did. So I know people with cancer can get ins, just depends what you're willing to pay, I guess.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:50 PM
 
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I know someone who had breast cancer (double mastectomy) and part of her divorce settlement was that her ex would continue paying her ins premiums b/c they were so high and he had significantly more income than she did. So I know people with cancer can get ins, just depends what you're willing to pay, I guess.
I could not get it period, OK. If you are a very young cancer survivor, it is extremely difficult. So it varies by your individual case, obviously.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Please. This thread is full of hate, as usual, and I made only one post.

I find it amusing that those that scream the loudest about various 'entitlement spending' and hating on the 'takers' are generously availing themselves of the very same thing.

Sue me.
Full of hate? Wanting to make sure small business owners can stay in business and keep people employed is hateful?
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:56 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Full of hate? Wanting to make sure small business owners can stay in business and keep people employed is hateful?
Don't be disingenuous. It's unbecoming.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Don't be disingenuous. It's unbecoming.
Okay, well, that's what this thread is about, so if you only want to add sarcasm, maybe your time is better spent elsewhere. Do you have anything to say about the OP?
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