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Here's the thing. They impose a waiting list which reduces the survival likelihood. Simply waiting reducing the odds of survival. Lung cancer, heart disease, kidney failure, you name it all have lower survival odds the longer you wait.
"Therefore, 21% of potentially curable patients became incurable on the waiting list. The delay between diagnostic and planning CT scans ranged from 18 to 131 days (median 54), with increases in the cross-sectional tumour size over that period ranging zero to 373%. The delay between the first hospital visit and starting treatment was 35-187 days (median 94); between the date of the radiotherapy request and the starting date for treatment it was 23-61 days (median 44). Limited access to specialists is the reason most often advanced for the poor performance of the UK in treating lung cancer. This study demonstrates that, even for the select minority of patients who have specialist referral and are deemed suitable for potentially curative treatment, the outcome is prejudiced by waiting times that allow tumour progression."
Lung cancer treatment waiting tim... [Clin Oncol (R Coll Radiol). 2000] - PubMed - NCBI
"Long waiting lists for coronary artery bypass grafting are associated with considerable mortality. The risk of death increases significantly with waiting time. Sex, unstable angina, perioperative risk, impaired left ventricular function, and concomitant aortic valve disease are independent risk factors and should be considered at triage."
Those are all for the UK though, not Canada. And even though I agree that Canada sometimes has longer waiting times, it apparently doesn't significantly impact outcomes, because I already posted the link to the study that found health outcomes in Canada were equal to or better than health outcomes in the U.S. for patients with the same diagnoses.
This is the typical scenario for restaurants, ours included, and probably a lot of small businesses in general.
Do you have more than 50 full-time employees? If not, you have no problems.
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I know someone who had breast cancer (double mastectomy) and part of her divorce settlement was that her ex would continue paying her ins premiums b/c they were so high and he had significantly more income than she did. So I know people with cancer can get ins, just depends what you're willing to pay, I guess.
It depends on a lot more than that, and it's presumptuous of you to imply the poster is just being cheap.
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Those are all for the UK though, not Canada. And even though I agree that Canada sometimes has longer waiting times, it apparently doesn't significantly impact outcomes, because I already posted the link to the study that found health outcomes in Canada were equal to or better than health outcomes in the U.S. for patients with the same diagnoses.
"Does Canada's publicly funded, single payer health care system deliver better health outcomes and distribute health resources more equitably than the multi-payer heavily private U.S. system? We show that the efficacy of health care systems cannot be usefully evaluated by comparisons of infant mortality and life expectancy. We analyze several alternative measures of health status using JCUSH (The Joint Canada/U.S. Survey of Health) and other surveys. We find a somewhat higher incidence of chronic health conditions in the U.S. than in Canada but somewhat greater U.S. access to treatment for these conditions. Moreover, a significantly higher percentage of U.S. women and men are screened for major forms of cancer. Although health status, measured in various ways is similar in both countries, mortality/incidence ratios for various cancers tend to be higher in Canada. The need to ration resources in Canada, where care is delivered "free", ultimately leads to long waits. In the U.S., costs are more often a source of unmet needs. We also find that Canada has no more abolished the tendency for health status to improve with income than have other countries. Indeed, the health-income gradient is slightly steeper in Canada than it is in the U.S."
Hence the reason there is so many part time jobs for 29 hours a week.
Plenty of companies have been cutting hours (or never offering in the first place) since long before Obamacare to avoid having to offer employees benefits. My friend's son worked for Best Buy, and they would schedule him for 39 hours b/c their policy gave employees benefits at 40 hours. My niece also works for a company that does that.
Plenty of companies have been cutting hours (or never offering in the first place) since long before Obamacare to avoid having to offer employees benefits. My friend's son worked for Best Buy, and they would schedule him for 39 hours b/c their policy gave employees benefits at 40 hours. My niece also works for a company that does that.
If they were limiting hours to 39 in order to avoid paying benefits what do you think will happen when full time is defined as over 30 hrs?
It is not a matter of just a high premium; it is unavailable at any cost.
From personal experience your statement above is very incorrect. I had a number of the conditions you mentioned and I was able to get insurance - at a price - but I got insurance.
Maybe it has something to do with the region of the country??
If they were limiting hours to 39 in order to avoid paying benefits what do you think will happen when full time is defined as over 30 hrs?
nothing, because the majority of companies already offer insurance to those who arent full time.being full time just means you qualify for alot of other company perks like maybe a gym membership, college tuition reimbursement, daycare services and so on.
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