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Please stop trying to eqiuvocate. You have been all over the bombing threads trying to claim the bombers were no different than all those Christians out there waiting to kill people in the name of Jesus and saying they had "conservative" ideology. It's maddening.
Christians didn't kill 3,000 people on 9/11, they didn't attack the USS Cole, they didn't masscre 300 people including 180 children in the Beslan school massacre, they didn't bomb trains in Madrid to kill 180 people, kill 200 with bombs on trains in India, or kill 4 and wound 200 others in Boston. And they didn't plan the newest attacks in Canada.
The fact that these attacks were done in the name of Islam doesn't mean every Muslim or even most Muslims are bad. But it also has nothing to do with Christianity, so please stop with the nonsense.
And stop going back hundreds of years into history to try to excuse this. That would be like someone screaming "Muhammad raped a 9 year old girl" in response to a priest being found guilty of pedophilia. It's insane to try to equivocate and excuse behavior because you want to protect the people involved. Wrong is wrong, and this wrong was done by two radical Muslim men.
We can talk about Christianity the next time Christians blow people up, and I'll be happy to discuss any possible religious motives then as well.
Um, want to talk about the IRA?
They're Christians who blew up other people pretty often.
Gunned them down too.
Now it IS true that they have almost stopped since funding from Irish-Americans dried up after 9/11 - when the horror of terrorism was brought to America, but they haven't stopped entirely. In fact there were bombing attempts just last fall.
Please stop trying to eqiuvocate. You have been all over the bombing threads trying to claim the bombers were no different than all those Christians out there waiting to kill people in the name of Jesus and saying they had "conservative" ideology. It's maddening.
Christians didn't kill 3,000 people on 9/11, they didn't attack the USS Cole, they didn't masscre 300 people including 180 children in the Beslan school massacre, they didn't bomb trains in Madrid to kill 180 people, kill 200 with bombs on trains in India, or kill 4 and wound 200 others in Boston. And they didn't plan the newest attacks in Canada.
The fact that these attacks were done in the name of Islam doesn't mean every Muslim or even most Muslims are bad. But it also has nothing to do with Christianity, so please stop with the nonsense.
And stop going back hundreds of years into history to try to excuse this. That would be like someone screaming "Muhammad raped a 9 year old girl" in response to a priest being found guilty of pedophilia. It's insane to try to equivocate and excuse behavior because you want to protect the people involved. Wrong is wrong, and this wrong was done by two radical Muslim men.
We can talk about Christianity the next time Christians blow people up, and I'll be happy to discuss any possible religious motives then as well.
You're right--but a member of the Christian Identity movement DID kill 168 people in the Oklahoma bombing, and a anti-abortionist christian nut killed one and injured 111 in the Olympic Park bombing. I can list more. You also seem to have forgot about the fighting between Northern Ireland and the rest of the country for decades.
Since you seem incapable of getting the point, let me say it again. I'm not in any way saying that Christians are evil and they should be compared with Muslims. I'm saying that religious extremists of ANY faith are dangerous and evil. There's a big difference. Most Muslims are not extremists, and neither are most Christians. If you want to go after religious extremists in this country I'm with you--you just can't focus on one group of them because they're Muslims, try to claim that all Muslims are evil (especially for saying something like Allahu Akbar) and claim that it's anything more than bigotry. We need to round up some of the crazy anti-government Christian terrorists right along with suspected Muslim terrorists if we're going to make this country safer.
Is the mom of the bombers an extremist nut--sure. Is she an extremist nut for saying Allahu Akbar? No.
Um, want to talk about the IRA?
They're Christians who blew up other people pretty often.
Gunned them down too.
Now it IS true that they have almost stopped since funding from Irish-Americans dried up after 9/11 - when the horror of terrorism was brought to America, but they haven't stopped entirely. In fact there were bombing attempts just last fall.
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Sure, the next time the IRA bombs someone, post a thread and I promise to post there.
And the same if someone shoots an abortion doctor in the name of God. I will be happy to post there and condemn them. And consider the stats behind how often those attacks happen, are they increasing, was there something about the church they were attending that led them to do that.
And I won't one time try to equivocate with 20 year old, or even 2 day old, Muslim attacks.
Actually the mother was caught shoplifting in 2012. Usually that means deportation.
As well it should.
Mom was charged with two counts of malicious/wanton damage and defacement to property after allegedly swiping $1600 in merchandise from a Lord & Taylor in Natick, Mass. in June 2012.
She was not deported because she was not convicted because she failed to show up in court. Thus the outstanding warrant.
Sort of interesting that she was caught shoplifting from Lord & Taylor and it was Lord & Taylor's ( different branch) cameras that identified her sons.
Alex Jones could have a field day with this one.
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Despite the majority of "immigrants" (illegal and legal) being worthless bums.....
It's the American way to look down on all subsequent waves of immigration. With the exception of Native Americans, we are all descendants of so-called "worthless bums".
The mother was working from her home giving facials so probably never reported that income in order to qualify for welfare. One of her clients reported that she stopped going to her in 2012 because of the mom's increasingly radical views --- she was a huge 9/11 Truther. The younger son was a 9/11 Truther also according to his tweets.
It's been reported the family were fans of Alex Jones and were buying into his endless conspiracy theories.
I don't care that her oldest son was shot and run over by her younger son. I also don't care that the younger son will be rear raped for the rest of his life. I just don't care, GOD IS GREAT. lol
Mom was charged with two counts of malicious/wanton damage and defacement to property after allegedly swiping $1600 in merchandise from a Lord & Taylor in Natick, Mass. in June 2012.
She was not deported because she was not convicted because she failed to show up in court. Thus the outstanding warrant.
Sort of interesting that she was caught shoplifting from Lord & Taylor and it was Lord & Taylor's ( different branch) cameras that identified her sons.
I guess it depends on how you define "many". Since Muslims number in the billions globally, the VAST majority of them don't engage in terrorism at all.
And many Christians do engage in terrorism, a case in point would be in Serbia, Chechnya, Bosnia. The thing is we who live in the United States and Europe are exposed to a narrative that blames the Muslim extremists on their Muslim faith, while Christian extremists are painted as extremists and their faith is held blameless. When you are exposed to other narratives, the Muslim extremists are often acting out for reasons that go well beyond their faith.
And the bottom line is that the Muslim faith and the Christian faith are sibling faiths. Muslims, Jews, and Christians all worship the god of Abraham. Their teachings are all rooted in the same book, the Old Testament.
While these three faiths compete against one another, killing and blaming each other, they aren't really three separate faiths. They are three related faiths, that have much, much more in common than any differences. And the more extremist the member of one of these faiths, the more likely that extremist is to focus on the differences. Radicalism, by its very nature, must focus on the differences to fuel the anger and the hatred.
You, actually, lean toward extremism. Your posts about the Muslim faith are all about focusing on the differences between Christianity and Islam, and they are full of anger and hatred. And what you say and post doesn't fall on deaf ears, it falls on the very receptive ears of other extremists. Who either share your views and feel validated by your hate and anger, or either are Muslim extremists, who similarly feel their hate and anger towards Christian is validated. Extremists are the problem. By expressing extremist positions, you are part of the problem.
No. The Christian faith has a savior that was raised from the death and defeated death. Jesus was the overcomer of Satan and sin. They are not the same. Many so called Christian churches do not follow Christian principals. Some so called Christians reject the bible and call it an idol.. the Word of God an idol..
We have some really perverted messages coming out of all religions.
Some do not believe that Jesus is God. That is the main belief of Christians.
Check out Exodus 22:20, Leviticus 20:1-5, Deuteronomy 17:2-7 and see what the Old Testament says about worshiping false idols (meaning anything other than "our" God). There's plenty of rules about HAVING to kill people for failing to follow our faith in the Old Testament too.
I never read that. Killing, life and death is always left up to God. Christians do not believe if you kill the infidels you will get a ticket to heaven. That is in the Koran, never the bible.
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There's plenty of rules about HAVING to kill people for failing to follow our faith in the Old Testament too.