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And I don't work 60 hours a week. Not anymore. I did when I started out in my teens..
Your post of 5/27/2012 below
Experiencing possible burnout
Kind of hit me suddenly. Very stressful week, and couldn't seem to get my mind into my work. After a couple screw ups that were my fault, I came in Saturday to work on my work on my time. I never made these kinds of mistakes before, and it's a big blow in the armor for me. I've kind of been on the edge these past few months, and saw this coming. I think I'm cashed in and burned out.
Basically, I've been working 60-80 hours a week for the past 4 years,
For blue collar stuff, merely having a good work history is enough. Very few pay decent wages anymore, mine just happens too.. so I have no debt, plenty of savings, and a decent wage. Actually a number of college grads work here as they can't find good paying work in their chosen field.
Pretty much what I have observed. Last plant I worked in had at least 3 young folks who graduated, and with "good" degrees too. Last time I checked, accounting was one of those degrees that young folks are told to get. I actually read somewhere that a quarter of all CNC operators have at least a bachelors degree. That's a job that tops out at about $16/hr at most places, while the HS grad programer is probably making 40-60K. That operator would have been much better off going into the workforce at 18 and getting the 4 years of experience first. They would be making more money and they would have progressed faster.
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I'd argue that the top and bottom both suck from the middle... many at the very top produce little of value and merely use their money to make money, or as a reward for making them successful, they ship the jobs to China.. many large corporations get bailouts, as do people at the bottom on welfare and assisted living.
Exactly why many companies are raking in the dough today. Chipping away at wages and benefits for their workers, thus improving the bottom line. If they won't pay a living wage, the government will simply fill in the void. I would like to know why high paid American CEOs whine about the expense of manufacturing in America while CEOs from Europe and even China are opening up plants here in America to have their products made. Sounds to me the American CEOs are overpaid and underskilled.
Ironically, we had a team from China in over the week, and they are looking to have their parts made in America. This stuff does indeed happen, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the work that gets sent out to China.
Experiencing possible burnout
Kind of hit me suddenly. Very stressful week, and couldn't seem to get my mind into my work. After a couple screw ups that were my fault, I came in Saturday to work on my work on my time. I never made these kinds of mistakes before, and it's a big blow in the armor for me. I've kind of been on the edge these past few months, and saw this coming. I think I'm cashed in and burned out.
Basically, I've been working 60-80 hours a week for the past 4 years,
So what. I don't work 60 hours a week anymore, and haven't put in those hours for over 1 and a half years. Exactly why I found changed jobs. Why exactly are you concerned about my income, which surpassed that of our plant engineer with the same experience level, or the amount of hours I have put in? Aren't conservatives the ones that feel a lucky and privileged few should be worked to the bone?
And I think your fascination with me is a wee bit strange...
So what. I don't work 60 hours a week anymore, and havn't put in those hours for over 1 and a half years. Exactly why I found changed jobs.
You started that thread 5/27/2012 (11.2 months ago) saying you had worked for 4 straight years 60-80 hours per week. Now you say you haven't worked that much in 18 months. Did someone sign on as andywire and start the "Experiencing possible Burnout" thread on 5/27/2012? Or is 5/27/2012 18 months ago-new math?
remember when you write stuff..there is a search option available to all, and many of us instantly spot discrepencies.
So what. I don't work 60 hours a week anymore, and haven't put in those hours for over 1 and a half years. Exactly why I found changed jobs. Why exactly are you concerned about my income, which surpassed that of our plant engineer with the same experience level, or the amount of hours I have put in? Aren't conservatives the ones that feel a lucky and privileged few should be worked to the bone?
And I think your fascination with me is a wee bit strange...
Of course it's applicable for 'the masses'. I suppose you think only the 'elite' should attend college? For most people, college IS the path to a better life and better income.
Bingo. The GI bill was one of the most underappreciated, spectacular ideas this nation ever had..and well deserved by the Greatest Generation.
While you may have done well up to age 26 by working 60 hours per week
That was the original dialogue. It was also completely wrong and off topic. Deflect much?
Maybe you could use your superior education to make a valid argument for a change?
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You started that thread 5/27/2012 (11.2 months ago) saying you had worked for 4 straight years 60-80 hours per week. Now you say you haven't worked that much in 18 months. Did someone sign on as andywire and start the "Experiencing possible Burnout" thread on 5/27/2012? Or is 5/27/2012 18 months ago-new math?
remember when you write stuff..there is a search option available to all, and many of us instantly spot discrepencies.
I was working as an independent contractor on the side for local production/prototype/die shops. This added more hours and money to I could save for a house. In case you didn't know, they cost 1/4 million dollars around here. What exactly do you care anyways?
Wow... Some exiting life you must have... Yes kids, get that college degree and you can be just like Bob
Everytime I go for a promotion in my company, I'm told "You have great skills amd knowledge for the position, but we want someone with a degree". Fine. I'm playing the stupid game and am now in college. So far, I've learned how to write papers to the specs that each professor wants. It's a joke, but it's how the system works. I am changing my major (and my career) though. Figure maybe if I get a Science degree instead of a business degree, I'll actually learn something for all the money amd effort.
This added more hours and money to I could save for a house. In case you didn't know, they cost 1/4 million dollars around here.
250k is low up there, and even in a large portion of my town. My nephew has one in a great burb up there (north of Chicago), at a few times that cost, so I'm aware.
Chicago is expensive and requires a tremendous income just to survive. Very high COL. We have a subsidiary in the area.
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