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Old 05-20-2013, 07:50 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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Originally Posted by Don Draper View Post
He has no control over your life, you do, and until you realize that, your life will improve at a nominal pace, if at all.
Bull pucky, all this man knows is raising taxes which has negatively effected everyone even if it was not a direct hit.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:53 AM
 
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No, if you like your health plan just keep it. It also mandates your children stay on the plan until 26 and you can't be denied because of a pre existing condition.

How, specifically, has Obama been unfriendly to business?
yea, you can't be turned down but they can say they will not pay healthcare cost for the first year. Yep, pay the premiums for one year and then they will pay. I know this first hand.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:55 AM
 
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I don't know where you get your jobs data but three years ago there were fewer job openings. The economy was just starting to recover from the economic downturn that Mr. Obama inherited. Companies are make record profits, which puts a stake in the heart of your contention that he's hurting business.
You are so wrong. No matter how you spin it Obama has hurt small business. Then again, cheap labor will help make up for some of it.

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Old 05-20-2013, 08:00 AM
 
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Uh.. how does Obama control your insurance premiums, or the volume of local real estate sales, or your local school district's funding?
people are nimwits. There is a cause and effect to everything. Oh and by the way, Kathleen Sebelius appears to have violated federal ethics rules when she asked health care executives to contribute to the campaign to implement Obamacare. it’s a clear violation of the rules if you’re asking insurance companies to put money in. Government will scratch health care companies back if they contribute to implement Obamacare. But that's ok for you as long as it's everyone else who has to pay higher insurance premiums right?

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Old 05-20-2013, 08:06 AM
 
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He has no control over your life, you do, and until you realize that, your life will improve at a nominal pace, if at all.
I beg to differ the new HC law will give Obama and his Brownshirts the IRS total control over US ...medical...financial ...your very livelihood if it doesn't meet the Furor's agenda....
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:18 AM
 
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He's the President of ALL of us,
I would have to disagree. I did not vote for him (Didn't vote for Romney either). I do not consider him "my" president, a leader, or a benefit to the nation. He can sign all of the laws he wants, but as stated in Marbury vs Madison, " a legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law".

Unconstitutional laws need not be followed, no matter what that retard in chief says. Obama can't even spell Constitution, let alone fulfill his duty to preserve, protect, and defend it. He belongs in prison, nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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Good for you! My son (a National Guard officer), just got back from Afghanistan. His unit was replaced by another Guard unit.
There are still "boots on the ground", and our troops are dieing for nothing!
Obama should have kept his promise and got ALL of our troops out of there!
Show me where he has ever promised to get "ALL of our troops out". We have been drawing down forces for the last two years; in that time I've seen numerous units get their assignments turned off. Some however will still have to go. Winding down a war isn't as simple as packing up everyone and going home. Just getting our equipment out will take years.
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:41 AM
 
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people are nimwits. There is a cause and effect to everything.
Oh, okay. Sort of a "butterfly effect" type of thing, Obama sneezes and this triggers a chain reaction that raises your insurance premiums.

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Oh and by the way, Kathleen Sebelius appears to have violated federal ethics rules when she asked health care executives to contribute to the campaign to implement Obamacare. it’s a clear violation of the rules if you’re asking insurance companies to put money in. Government will scratch health care companies back if they contribute to implement Obamacare.
are you sure you're responding to the right post? because this little "aside" seems to be the meat of your response, and yet doesn't explain how Obama has caused the aforementioned price changes.

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But that's ok for you as long as it's everyone else who has to pay higher insurance premiums right?
Oh, is it? Boy you sure do know a lot about me.

This is an interesting discussion. I've never seen someone so blatantly set up a strawman, then knock it down.
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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He makes the losers of the nation feel like they are victims, absolving them of any personal responsibility.
Ahh, so you know Don Draper???
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Other than talk talk talk just what has he done? Are things really any better for the average tax paying legal citizen ? DONT THINK SO!
It is too bad you expect the government to give you stuff to improve your life. I am much better off today, than four years ago, but since my mind does not revolve around the government, I dont' try to associate it with anyone except myself.
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