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Ugh, you Monsanto apologists love arguing that "there is no proof GMO's will kill you".
I guess that's a great..ugh...'quality' to have in a food product, but was never my point.
I am against collusion between our Federal Government and Multi-National Corporations.
It exists with Monsanto and you must be blind or paid to not see it.
The entry point of a democracy is that it is bought and paid for. That has been the point of democracy since beginning of time. Yet people still have a vote. . .and the people on this board even pointed that if there is INTEREST you can look at the UPC code for a GMO impact.
Though I love your comment. . . .if your not with me, well you must be paid for by the opposition.
Though I love your comment. . . .if your not with me, well you must be paid for by the opposition.
Yes, that is generally how it works with Monsanto .
For what other possible reason would any sane person argue against the laws of nature in favor of a for-profit Corporation?
Especially when 15,000 farmers in India are committing suicide every single year due to crippling debt from said Corporation and their intended monopoly on mother nature.
The entry point of a democracy is that it is bought and paid for. That has been the point of democracy since beginning of time. Yet people still have a vote. . .and the people on this board even pointed that if there is INTEREST you can look at the UPC code for a GMO impact.
Though I love your comment. . . .if your not with me, well you must be paid for by the opposition.
heh. Now that is a way to not debate
We have a "Vote" alright, but when the same wolves are in charge of the media, to give us the illusion of choice, such as "Hope and Change Banker Puppet Obama" or, "They hate us for our Freedom, Military Industrial Complex Bush" it becomes quite easy to see how people get the wool pulled over their eyes.
The Power of Psychology via Propaganda and Brainwashing is quite real and in effect in our country.
History is a testament to this in any period of existence.
The "vote" is first made or selected with money, and then the Media goes to work on those that were selected. Take Mitt Romney and Obama, both bought by the Big Banks. They win either way.
When either president is put in power, and things go wrong for everyone (but the bought and paid for), there are cries that people need to be more responsible on who they elect, but when it is pointed out how the elections and media work, they are called tin foil hatters and told to go back to sleep.
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Also, they know not many will bother with deciphering the UPC Code or react unless it was clearly labeled.
If the UPC Code and Labeling are the same, then why are the fighting to not label gmo products?
Especially when 15,000 farmers in India are committing suicide every single year due to crippling debt from said Corporation and their intended monopoly on mother nature.
The issue of farmer suicides first gained media attention in 1995 as the southern state of Maharashtra began reporting a significant rise in farmers killing themselves.
Other states across the country began noticing an increase in farmer suicides as well. But it wasn’t until seven years later — in 2002 — that the U.S.-based agribusiness Monsanto began selling genetically modified cotton seeds, known as Bt cotton, to Indian farmers.
Those people going into government jobs from their respective industries are not going into government for their own health or to "Serve the American People", but like all things these days, to regulate or deregulate, whichever is most beneficial and profitable to their masters and field they are in. Regulate to kill off competition or deregulate to reap greater profits at the publics expense.
Windfalls for Wall Street Executives Taking Jobs in Government
The same reason why many small time politicians would go to DC having a net worth of 400,000 and coming out millionaires many times over. Power and Wealth and Corruption.
Unless you're omnipresent, you don't know why they or do not do things, you only have assumptions and conjecture.
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Ah, deflection huh? My point remains, The Monsanto Protection Act was written by Monsanto
Prove it.
Then, provided you can prove it, tell me why this is a bad thing.
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and was instantly approved by the puppets.
Wrong. It took just under a month to move through the process. More than enough time for any discussion on the matter to take place.
You wouldn't expect a liberal hippy tree-hugging vegetarian to defend Monsanto, but I can't, in all good conscience, tar and feather them because of hysteria on the internet.
It would behoove some people to do some research and look up some facts.
Okay, fear tactic aside. . .thats not the goal here. GMO is normally things like excrete a protein that stops a specific aphid, or an immunity to a specific chemical. A pesticide is a complex chemical . . . and no one has done the above yet. No one has glow and the dark bananas, or ones that push out poison.
Yes, GMO corn releases pesticides.
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The impeccable logic brought to you by the same rationale that makes people afraid to inoculate themselves from whooping cough.
Vaccines - One of the many combinatives that would obfuscate independent biological tracking.
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Even if Peanut Allergies have gone up over time (and not just diagnostic criteria, more people going to doctor for it, more people thinking they are for some random reason) Correlation isn't a reason to believe anything. . .
I don't believe, I question after looking. Correlation? Play with it all you like.
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People are still 100% guessing on a link between a specific GMO alteration (Soy beans) and peanut allergies. As in pharma drugs. . .not all GMO alterations are the same. . the only one you may care about is the Soy one (regarding allergies).
Yeah, we can hide things in the complexity.
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I don't understand this. ..seems a little rambling. Though a parade of horrible is not a argument
It's just that I refuse to jump on any bandwagon until I've researched a subject in depth. I haven't seen any scientific studies that show how harmful GMO foods are. Hysterical articles from sites like Natural News don't count, and neither do youtube videos with dramatic music.
Yes, rats get tumours. Here's the thing, though. Rats ALWAYS get tumours. I had pet rats for about a decade, and they're prone to tumours no matter what you feed them, even an all-organic healthy diet.
Why would you want to be a lab rat in in a corporate profit scheme?
Liberals like being part of polarized multitudes. It is their communitarian need.
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