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Old 05-31-2013, 12:51 PM
 
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Why aren't you promoting that slavery is okay? It was fine with your 'god'.

So was kidnapping and raping young girls. Want to promote that too?
God didn't promote slavery, kidnapping, or rape.

Stop reading the Necronomicon.

 
Old 05-31-2013, 12:56 PM
 
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God didn't promote slavery, kidnapping, or rape.

Stop reading the Necronomicon.
Now who is rewriting the bible?

I guess you missed the part where if a girl is raped the rapist can simply pay daddy, and the girl has to marry the rapist. Or the part where if a girl is raped, and doesn't scream loud enough, SHE is to be stoned. Or the part where masters can beat their slaves, but not too severely. Or the part where slaves were to obey their masters.

Maybe you left those parts out, like all of the other parts you don't like.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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God didn't promote slavery, kidnapping, or rape.

Stop reading the Necronomicon.
God has very little issue with slavery.


Exodus Chapter 21, verse 20:

If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.


Everybody got that?

Owning humans as property = okay with God
Beating the humans you own as property = okay with God
Beating them to death = not okay with God

Love just oozes out of the bible, doesn't it?
 
Old 05-31-2013, 12:59 PM
 
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Old 05-31-2013, 01:01 PM
 
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Timothy is a New Testament. If you're referring to the Leviticus verse against homosexuality, Christians are charged with following the Old Testament as well.
Just that one eh? And not the 600 or so others?

Not sure how many 21st century gay men have sex with men 'like they would with a woman' while worshipping Canaanite gods like Molech in the role of sacred temple prostitutes.

Do you even know who Molech was?

Find Leviticus Chapter 18 here
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible...&v=1&t=YLT#top

After the command not to give your offspring over to Molech in verse 21, there is a pause and a change of direction where it says "I am the Lord" - Meaning "I, not Molech, am the Lord. Ie, they are being reminded who is God and not to go worship other gods like Molech.

The change of direction goes on to refer to temple prostitution from verse 21 about giving children over to Molech (who is associated in several places in the OT with mentions of giving over sons and daughters to be male and female temple prostitutes) then male temple prostitutes (22), then female temple prostitutes (who also had anal sex with men as well as with animals to worship the gods) (23).

Look up references to Molech in the OT to see the connection to shrine or temple prostitutes HERE: Blue Letter Bible - Search Results for NASB.

Read a brief summary of the historical and cultural context of ancient Canaan:
Canaanite culture and religion

Then see how it all goes together with:

Leviticus 18:21- not giving sons and daughters over to worship of Molech

Leviticus 18:22 -about males temple prostitutes (qadesh).
Leviticus 18:23 - about female temple prostitutes (qadesha)
Leviticus 18:24 -warning that other nations (Egypt and Canaan) became defiled by worshipping other gods so don't follow their practices.

There are more than half a dozen verses in the OT about not giving over sons and daughters to be temple or cult prostitutes, yet never again outside Leviticus does it state that men should not lie with a male and women should not lie with an animal.

eg Deut 23:17: "None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult prostitute (6948), nor shall any of the sons of Israel be a cult (6945) prostitute.

Stongs 6945: qadesh - male temple prostitute

Strongs 6948: qĕdeshah - female temple prostitute.


(Strong's Number H6945 matches the Hebrew קָדֵשׁ (qadesh), which occurs 23 times in 9 verses in the Hebrew concordance)


In Leviticus 20:13 the context is also Molech worship.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Lev&c=20&t=NASB#2


To me, it's so obvious that Lev 18:22 and 20:13 are references to male temple prostitutes when you follow simple honest Biblical hermeneutics. That's not a blanket description of homosexuals or 21st century gay men.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 01:03 PM
 
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God has very little issue with slavery.


Exodus Chapter 21, verse 20:

If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.


Everybody got that?

Owning humans as property = okay with God
Beating the humans you own as property = okay with God
Beating them to death = not okay with God

Love just oozes out of the bible, doesn't it?
Jesus was apolitical.

Slavery in Bible times differed from slavery in modern times. It was not based on race. It was often less imperialistic. It many cases it was more of an indentured servant type arrangement.

So its not the same as modern slavery.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 01:06 PM
 
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Jesus was apolitical.

Slavery in Bible times differed from slavery in modern times. It was not based on race. It was often less imperialistic. It many cases it was more of an indentured servant type arrangement.

So its not the same as modern slavery.
And homosexuality, in the modern sense, has nothing to do with the temple prostitution of the bible.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 01:10 PM
 
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God didn't promote slavery, kidnapping, or rape.

Stop reading the Necronomicon.
Try reading the Bible. ALL of it.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Jesus was apolitical.

Slavery in Bible times differed from slavery in modern times. It was not based on race. It was often less imperialistic. It many cases it was more of an indentured servant type arrangement.

So its not the same as modern slavery.
...Which doesn't make it any more right.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 01:13 PM
 
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Try reading the Bible. ALL of it.
I have maybe you should give it a shot.
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