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There are people who want to learn and are good at it, and those who go to school (college) because people want them to. Some people aren't cut out for it, and that is fine. Honestly, I forgot much of what I was taught in public school, and I went to, arguably, some of the best public schools in the nation. I learned more about common sense than anything else. I think that helped me. And, yes, there are a lot of stupid people out there. We still have the best higher education system in the world, which is a great asset.
To a degree, yes. I graduated high school with three people who scored perfect on their ACT. Phenomenally brilliant people who all dropped out of college. To this day, they are they most intelligent people I've met and they screwed it up because they couldn't harness it. It almost happened to me, but I guess I was lucky not to score perfect.
Intelligence in today's market not only refers to your ability to learn, but to your ability to apply it to the free market.
What did they do, yank your license of child support or something similar?
something similar but way stupider and lamer:
well, it's complicated and not something i did voluntarily...i had an abrupt and lengthy hospitalization...during this time my car, parked in my driveway furthest from the street and behind two other cars closer to the street, got a flurry of parking tickets because the tags were expired. well duh, i was in no position to renew them, by the time i found out about the tickets they defaulted and the fines necessarily skyrocketed...and those unpaid parking tickets got my license suspended, so i can't get a license until i get the suspension removed, which isn't going to happen unless i somehow come up with more money than i would save by switching to GEICO.
I think many people on welfare already do have jobs, they're called the working poor. Many people on welfare are probably also uneducated. Perhaps we should start with education first, that might decrease the need in the future.
This is an issue that is true. So is the fact that there are at least 3/4 people per every available job in America today. That is if you do not include those who left the job hunt.
Perhaps we should look at making say unemployment continued if people take lower wage jobs to be working poor. Let's face it. Some people have applied to low wage jobs for unemployment requirements only to pass on getting the job because of how much extra they would lose thanks to taking the lower paying job.
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You have a bachelors degree, and you still cant make an adaquate living? Man, thats pathetic..
No that is the new normal. Just ask millennials who have to pay crushing student loans on low-wage part-time jobs.
Thats a good point. I've wondered quite a bit why the WPA and the CCC weren't restarted. Lot of jobs building/repairing/updating infrastructure around the country.
We need a real leader... Believe it or not those works programs where the biggest thing Reagan liked about FDR (bipartisanship?). They gave people opportunities (albeit not at a premium wage) to learn about things like wild life, the nature, administration, human resources, etc.
We already know how inefficient it is to transport freight via transfer trucks across the nation in regards to our highways and byways. There's still railways that can still be used that were built 100 years ago and it's far more efficient to transport freight over those railways. You could literally create millions of jobs that could never be off-shored. It would have a two-fold affect on the nation. We would stop destroying the highway system and we could transport freight at a fraction of the price.
You have a bachelors degree, and you still cant make an adaquate living? Man, thats pathetic..
A degree in the absence of career-related experience has a shelf life of five years. I had been told this a long time ago, and experienced it first-hand. my resume abruptly stopped getting responses five years after I graduated. (That was a pretty creepy experience.)
So I've been shut out of the "good-job market" for a long time now.
Thats a good point. I've wondered quite a bit why the WPA and the CCC weren't restarted. Lot of jobs building/repairing/updating infrastructure around the country.
They could work as they did in the past. But then you will have those calling it forced labor.
The Bureau of Labor May 2013 job report showed that, as has been the trend throughout the "recovery", many of the jobs added in May were in temporary help services, food services and drinking places, and retail trade. It doesn't matter who you are, those are not high paying fields.
In contrast, the jobs lost during the recession were middle-class manufacturing and professional jobs that paid much better. So in my opinion, there is no lack of educated workers. In fact, it's got to be the over-qualified educated workers filling all those temp and food server jobs, and then needing food stamps just to survive.
No that is the new normal. Just ask millennials who have to pay crushing student loans on low-wage part-time jobs.
But the discussion is those who get free education.
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something similar but way stupider and lamer:
well, it's complicated and not something i did voluntarily...i had an abrupt and lengthy hospitalization...during this time my car, parked in my driveway furthest from the street and behind two other cars closer to the street, got a flurry of parking tickets because the tags were expired. well duh, i was in no position to renew them, by the time i found out about the tickets they defaulted and the fines necessarily skyrocketed...and those unpaid parking tickets got my license suspended, so i can't get a license until i get the suspension removed, which isn't going to happen unless i somehow come up with more money than i would save by switching to GEICO.
Have you even appealed the tickets to the judge, or did you just roll over and accept them?
They could work as they did in the past. But then you will have those calling it forced labor.
want more jobs in the USA?
tax the crap out of companies that have the majority of their factories outside of the USA and make it so any company that has their factories inside the USA to be paying no corporate tax at all.
A degree in the absence of career-related experience has a shelf life of five years. I had been told this a long time ago, and experienced it first-hand. my resume abruptly stopped getting responses five years after I graduated. (That was a pretty creepy experience.)
So I've been shut out of the "good-job market" for a long time now.
Adapt. over come. Learn. Apply yourself to something besides finding reasons you can't succeed.
How many jobs do you work? work to pay the bills and work to save money. It sucks but it will eventually produce results.
Staff management is a contractor in the Mill I work. They start at 12.00 an hour. allowed to work 1000 hrs.
I watch these kids work for staff and then hit the walmart or McDonalds as a second job. 2 part time jobs if you will.
Gas industry is always hiring. They pay big.
Options are out there sometimes they are not ideal, but they are out there.
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