Zimmerman trial begins, right on schedule (link inside) (illegal, support, murder)

[Cinebar]

Originally Posted by gtc08

That's why this all white jury looks so bad, as the white jury was biased in Zimmermans favor before this even began.

I agree.

Why the prosecution agreed to this jury is beyond me.

[southbel]

Originally Posted by JanND

True....But, they only met up after George made that happen. And, the back way...Trayvon was attempting to lose George, who was at that time parked in front of the mailbox area...dogging him. George was in vehicle....Trayvon was going along the path....a walking path, to avoid George following him in his truck......George had a different plan.

Oh, I completely agree George was out of line to follow him. I likely would have thought him creepy as well. However, that would not give me free license to attack him either. If Martin attacked Zimmerman, it's self-defense. If Zimmerman attacked Martin, there's great evidence for murder. Problem is, there doesn't seem to be any evidence which of those aforementioned scenarios occurred.

[Nonarchist]

Originally Posted by stiffnecked

Totally untrue. We carried long flashlights but there was never any training on using them as weapons. Every academy class I went through stressed NOT using them since they were not approved weapons.

Sometimes, though . . .

"FLASHLIGHTS FOR SELF DEFENSE

As strange as it sounds, some flashlights are used for self defense quite often in daily life.
Sometimes by professionals Police Officers in a way to avoid using deadly force in confrontations with suspects, and other times by civilians that are not permitted to carry lethal weapons."

Flashlights for self defense

[tinman01]

Originally Posted by southbel

I think not. It's MY experiment but feel free to put me on ignore. That should solve your issue with me.

You are fair and resonable, open minded. There are more than a few posters on here who could learn from your sense of class.

[Weichert]

Originally Posted by Dale Cooper

Oh, honey, believe me, I know far more about this case than you ever will.

Really? What makes you think that?

Evidently you don't know that much else you wouldn't have posted that comment re Neighborhood Watch.

BTW, I'm not your "honey".

[JanND]

Originally Posted by southbel

Out of curiosity, how do you suppose black Conservatives and white Liberals think?

I think there is a much broader spectrum of variables. I think it has more to do with a person's life experiences and world view than politics.

[ellemint]

Originally Posted by stiffnecked

The "official" crime lab report is on-line. It's more then just a small amount on his shirttail. I would not expect to see any of Zimmerman's DNA under Martin's nails. Zimmerman did not have any wounds consistent with scratch marks. This is simply a red herring that the DA is trying to throw in.

Do you have a link to that?

[southbel]

Originally Posted by JanND

I think there is a much broader spectrum of variables. I think it has more to do with a person's life experiences and world view than politics.

Agree completely. It was a bit of a tongue in cheek question simply because I don't generally accept absolutes as truth.

[Nonarchist]

Originally Posted by Rakin

George Zimmerman trial: Neighbor testifies Trayvon Martin was straddling Zimmerman moments before fatal gunshot - Crimesider - CBS News

This guy gave deliberately ambiguous and contradictory testimony.

He canceled out, damned near impeached, his own testimony.

He didn't see the struggle during the screaming.

I hope the prosecution timeline's each of the witnesses' testimony on one chart.

[Rakin]

Originally Posted by Weichert

That excuse is getting kinda old. You should do a bit of reading.

Originally Posted by Weichert

BTW, I'm not your "honey".

Honey is a Southern term for...

Never mind.