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The way they prove Zimmerman did not act in self defense is to prove to the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman is a liar, not credible, and that he would lie about his claim of self defense because he lied so many times about what happened, an other things. I don't know if they can bring in that Zimmerman conspired with his wife to lie to the Court about the amount of money they had during the bail hearing, but if they can do so, that would be enormously damaging to his credibility. Remember the jury only has to have a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman is telling the truth when he claims self defense. A reasonable doubt is not beyond ALL doubt. A juror could think, well, maybe it was self defense, but based on his history of lying and the conflicting testimony, and the fact that he has good reason to lie now in order to be acquitted, I think there is certainly a reasonable doubt that he is telling the truth when he says he was in fear of losing his life or great bodily harm.
At this point in the trial the prosecution as not demonstrated anything besides lack of evidence.
I will also add that he is not very bright. Any intelligent person would not have left their vehicle that night. It is just common sense, foresight and critical thinking that would have prevented this tragedy and Zimmerman is void of all of the above. I will go as far as to say that NO ONE that I know would have taken the course that Zimmerman did right from the outset. I see the fact that he did not confront TM with an intoduction as to who he was and why he was following him as a major point in this case. Zimmerman attempted to turn neighbrhood watch responsibility into intrigue and espionage.
And most importantly Zimmerman is a proven liar.......from the bail hearing. Also his various stories of what happened that night cannot all be truth. He is a liar. He has lied in this case. Some call them "exaggerations" but in a court of law, they are lies. And this jury, in order to acquit, will have to believe he is telling the truth when he says he shot Martin because he was in fear for his life. I think the State is, in a not very interesting way, methodically putting on evidence, that when taken as a whole, is showing that Zimmerman is a liar and his word that he was in fear for his life cannot be taken at face value. That's what the State has to convince the jury of in order to create a reasonable doubt in their minds that Zimmerman is telling the truth when he claims self defense.
And most importantly Zimmerman is a proven liar.......from the bail hearing. Also his various stories of what happened that night cannot all be truth. He is a liar. He has lied in this case. Some call them "exaggerations" but in a court of law, they are lies. And this jury, in order to acquit, will have to believe he is telling the truth when he says he shot Martin because he was in fear for his life. I think the State is, in a not very interesting way, methodically putting on evidence, that when taken as a whole, is showing that Zimmerman is a liar and his word that he was in fear for his life cannot be taken at face value. That's what the State has to convince the jury of in order to create a reasonable doubt in their minds that Zimmerman is telling the truth when he claims self defense.
In the court of law? Perhaps (Jurors) should be composed of (jurists) so that all decisions, opinions and thoughts are derived from the law.
The reality is a jury of peers think like common people. There are lies and then there are exaggerations. Believe it or not that is how common people think.
Only 1 person knows how GZ felt the moment he pulled the trigger. I dislike GZ and believe he lies about just about everything. I do believe he was afraid. He is a cowardly little man. Cowardly little men are always afraid.
I corrected the post as to satisfy the need for accuracy. Jurist is now juror.
Jurist - 1. A reptile who looks human in appearance. 2. A human totally devoid of integrity.
Juror- 1.A person forced to endure the company of jurists. 2. A person expected to sift through fabrications for the truth and hopefully render a just verdict.
LOL. That is funny and certainly contains some truth! On this we agree.
Doesn't matter.
Here's what you don't seem to be able to grasp, life in some instances is not fair. The other thing is when you decided to confront someone with violence someone (maybe you) could end up dead as a doornail as a consequence. Fair? Maybe and maybe not but it is what it is.
What if T.M. had hit G.Z. one time and he happened to die? It's happened before, one hit to the head that "shouldn't" have killed someone but did. What would you be saying then? That G.Z. deserved it?
Yeah, I'd say so.
A secretive person out spooking.
Reminds me of my glorious government.
Remember - Government is force.
Zimmerman carried his force near his privates.
He was on Mission from God.
In God We Trust.
On the night in question, Zimmerman carried offensive force.
Trayvon reacted with defensive force.
Classic case of Government versus non-artificial person.
If Trayvon had acted more art-officially, he may have survived.
Obama is an art-official Natural Born Citizen.
Like some of my patent specifications state, "Anyone skilled in the art . . can pull that chit off."
Last edited by Nonarchist; 06-29-2013 at 10:32 AM..
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