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Watching the trial, I don't see why the state even brought charges against GZ. The state has nothing, every witness they have produced does a great job for George.. I'm sure the jury won't consider anything the "Star" witness had to say, she was completely unreliable. The other prosecution witness' make GZ look completely innocent.
They better have a whole lot more we haven't yet seen or GZ wins this one going away...No Contest..
I predict this will be treated in the end like a crime of passion - one of rage...The short story will be - GZ - confronts the kid...The kid looks at GZ and does not respect him because he is a little twerp....GZ insults the kid - TM punches him out in one or two blows...GZ is knocked to the ground...He is totally humiliated and enraged to be punched out so quickly by a kid...then he lifts himself off the ground - points and shoots... Involuntary man slaughter. Zimmerman did not go out with the intent to murder...he simply lost it.
I dont care how big he was. He was on the ground, on his back. Martin clearly was taking advantage of the offensive position.
And if that is your case you have none. The evidence to this point, supports Zimmerman. Im sorry if that upsets you but its the truth.
Offensive position? GZ didn't get his head bashed in a dozen times. Wasn't punched 25-30 times. The evidence supports that. With him the only thing that was hurt was his pride.
And your opinion is more valid than that of people who have decided to believe one of George's versions of the shooting; it isn't speculation based on lies. As others have suggested, we'll never know what was in Zimmerman's system when he shot Trayvon Martin, beyond the Adderall and temazepam, both of which have serious side effects. Somehow things that would be routine procedure, like blood work on an admitted killer, just fell by the wayside. Shoddy police work may save Zimmerman yet.
Well, the link says Serino hired his own attorney, Jose Baez, and that he gave a deposition back in Feb. of this year. I feel certain that Serino will say on the witness stand exactly what he said in his deposition. He's experienced enough that he will review his depo prior to testifying. However, the article says that it isn't clear what he said in his deposition, so I guess we have to wait to see if the State calls him.
You know, I'm starting to think that if a blood test had been done and the prescription drugs were found, and nothing else, no alcohol, etc., that may have provided him more evidence for his "fear for my life" claim. He could have made an argument that the prescription drugs distorted his perception and caused him to be in mortal fear. Who knows? I also think you have to give permission for law enforcement to take your blood.
I predict this will be treated in the end like a crime of passion - one of rage...The short story will be - GZ - confronts the kid...The kid looks at GZ and does not respect him because he is a little twerp....GZ insults the kid - TM punches him out in one or two blows...GZ is knocked to the ground...He is totally humiliated and enraged to be punched out so quickly by a kid...then he lifts himself off the ground - points and shoots... Involuntary man slaughter. Zimmerman did not go out with the intent to murder...he simply lost it.
Perhaps, but to this point the evidence to support your theory has not been brought forth. Perhaps it will, but it isn't looking like it will be...
Could it be that he's just telling "half" the story? Could he be leaving out the part about getting angry and going for his gun without even attempting to strike a blow or get away? It wouldn't be so hard to tell "sort of" the story, just leaving out a few details here and there and adding just a tiny change her and there?
The person I responded to proposed that Z planned all this out and was determined to go out and kill a black male that night. And that everything he did was somehow part of an elaborate murder plot. Seems kind of silly, doesn't it?
I'm not convinced of Zs innocence yet. It really depends on things we probably will never actually know. Like who actually threw the first punch. Yet once he's down on his back and getting punched in the face, it's hard to argue that it isn't reasonable to believe that he's in fear of death or great bodily harm.
There will be some physical evidence that will be hard to counter. If the forensics from the gunshot shows that they were several or many feet apart, SD will be harder to argue. Yet if it comes out that the shot was within a foot or 2, it's much more believable. Honestly, that is one of the few ways I see Z being found guilty at this point. The prosecution witnesses have set the stage for a pretty strong SD arguement.
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I predict this will be treated in the end like a crime of passion - one of rage...The short story will be - GZ - confronts the kid...The kid looks at GZ and does not respect him because he is a little twerp....GZ insults the kid - TM punches him out in one or two blows...GZ is knocked to the ground...He is totally humiliated and enraged to be punched out so quickly by a kid...then he lifts himself off the ground - points and shoots... Involuntary man slaughter. Zimmerman did not go out with the intent to murder...he simply lost it.
I agree, but if he would have told this as the truth in the first place millions of dollars of time and money would not have been spent on this case in the first place
Thats the thing. These Martin supporters have nothing but speculation to go on. Are there ANY real facts that support their case? I havent heard any yet. The real shame is, they are willing to send this guy to prison for years and years off speculations and emotions, and of course their politics.
I asked you just the other day which one of Zimmerman's versions of events do you believe is the true one? The written police report, the reenactment or the story that he told his brother, Robert?
Watching the trial, I don't see why the state even brought charges against GZ. The state has nothing, every witness they have produced does a great job for George.. I'm sure the jury won't consider anything the "Star" witness had to say, she was completely unreliable. The other prosecution witness' make GZ look completely innocent.
They better have a whole lot more we haven't yet seen or GZ wins this one going away...No Contest..
Guess you're not paying close attention. Some of these witnesses have contradicted each other. NOT every witness has done a "great job for George." What makes you think you can identify with and have any idea of what 5 white women and 1 Hispanic/Black woman are thinking down in Sanford, FL????
Most people know better than to predict what ANY JURY will do in any case. I'm sure most people thought that the Jodi Arius jury would give her a death sentence, but they were wrong.
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