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Old 06-25-2013, 10:57 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Oleg Bach View Post
Why are the pro-choice people so interested in a clinic that is pro-life?
because they are providing false information to women who are trying to decide what is best for themselves.

by lying and giving out false information (ie the morning after pill can cause hemorrhaging), they are manipulating these women to choose to keep a pregnancy.

I'm all for women to make their choices freely but not coerced into that decision by getting false information.
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Old 06-25-2013, 11:53 PM
 
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they already do. and by the time a woman has decided to have abortion, she already knows this.

Why do you anti-choice/anti-women folk, think that women are stupid when it comes to abortions?

It's not a matter of intelligence.

You have to be very clever to lie to yourself.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:00 AM
 
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It's not a matter of intelligence.
So providign false information is about intelligence?

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You have to be very clever to lie to yourself.
It's not about women lying to themselves. Its about doctors lying to women to get them to keep a pregnancy they may or may not want.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:06 AM
 
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So you are saying that giving a child up for adoption, or raising a child that results from an unplanned pregnancy does not cause life long stress/guilt/depression in some people?


My nephew who was given up for adoption is now eighteen and seems very happy.

His adoptive parents are a professional couple and Christians.

Imagine that!

He plays hockey, has a girlfriend and will be starting college in the fall.

Stress? Guilt? Depression?

Don't be silly.

Those things are for people who choose death for their kids.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:10 AM
 
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So providign false information is about intelligence?

It's not about women lying to themselves. Its about doctors lying to women to get them to keep a pregnancy they may or may not want.


No sane person kills their own child without first lying convincingly to themselves.

Abortion cannot be accepted without the child first being made a non-person.

This is the lie.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:13 AM
 
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they already do. and by the time a woman has decided to have abortion, she already knows this.

Why do you anti-choice/anti-women folk, think that women are stupid when it comes to abortions?
And that's why the pro-life movement is anti-woman. Because women are emotional and naive children who can't understand the consequences of their actions, and will burn their fingers in the fire before they learn.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:14 AM
 
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Yes, that is the lie and your post is truth momonkey.

Some will lie to themselves about that even when looking it right in the face still.
Hopefully the more often they are confronted with it it will be harder to deny what they really know in their heart.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:16 AM
 
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No sane person kills their own child without first lying convincingly to themselves.
seeing that a fetus isn't remotely a child, your rehtoric again is just that.

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Abortion cannot be accepted without the child first being made a non-person.
Abortion can be accepted because the SANE people out there know that a fetus is not a child.

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This is the lie.
Nope it isn't, no matter how much you lie to yourself that it is.
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Old 06-26-2013, 03:26 AM
 
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I doubt very seriously that these "counselors" actually know the facts. I don't blame them for being put into a position that they...by the very nature of the movement.. are mis-informed.
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Old 06-26-2013, 06:41 AM
 
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My nephew who was given up for adoption is now eighteen and seems very happy.

His adoptive parents are a professional couple and Christians.

Imagine that!

He plays hockey, has a girlfriend and will be starting college in the fall.

Stress? Guilt? Depression?

Don't be silly.

Those things are for people who choose death for their kids.
Nice evasion, but try again because I'm sure you're not stupid.

The guilt, stress and grief the poster was talking about was the MOTHER, for God's sake. And you know it, of course.
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