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Old 07-01-2013, 02:32 AM
 
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anyone who compares same gender "marriage" to the civil rights is a full fledged racist.

9 out of 10 they would have been a KKK member.
Despite your user name, you seem to be very familiar with those types of people and organizations

 
Old 07-01-2013, 02:48 AM
 
Location: texas
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anyone who compares same gender "marriage" to the civil rights is a full fledged racist.

9 out of 10 they would have been a KKK member.
Anyone who equates "civil rights" only with the struggles of Black Americans..is ignorant of "civil rights".
 
Old 07-01-2013, 02:49 AM
 
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Don't sweat it. There were 20 y/o that opposed the Civil Rights Movement, there were 20 y/o that opposed desegregation, there were 20 y/o that opposed emancipation.

You can feel proud knowing that in 40 years, when your grandkids ask "how backwards were people in the 2000s that they didn't think gays & lesbians deserved the same right," you can give them a firsthand account.
correction
There were 20 y/o that opposed the Socialist Movement, there were 20 y/o that opposed Bolshevism, there were 20 y/o that opposed Nazisim.

You can feel proud knowing that in 40 years, when your grandkids ask "how backwards were people in the 2000s that they didn't realize that gays & lesbians were not interested in rights," you can give them a firsthand account.
 
Old 07-01-2013, 03:29 AM
 
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Despite your user name, you seem to be very familiar with those types of people and organizations
know your enemy
 
Old 07-01-2013, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Shellfish is strictly forbidden in the bible and by god, yet business is booming at Red Lobster every Sunday after church.
The shellfish claim needs to be addressed. Got this from another source:

"It's A Sin To Eat Shellfish"

While it's true that in the Old Testament we find several passages that relate to being forbidden to eat shellfish, it is a good idea to study the scriptures to fully understand everything and rightly divide the World (2 Timothy 2:15)

In the Old Testament they were under the Law and in the New Testament they were under what we are still under which is Grace. (Romans 6:14 Chris fulfilled the Law therefore putting us under Grace (Romans 10:4, Romans 6:14). Along with this change from the Law to Grace, God also commanded that we are now permitted to eat the things that were considered unclean under the Law (Acts 10:11-15).

So why do we still say the act of homosexuality is a sin if we are under Grace?

While some things under the Old Law changed (eating shrimp) during the transition from Law to Grace, homosexuality is one of the things that you can find being taught against in both places. So while we are now permitted to eat shrimp, we are still forbidden to commit acts of homosexuality.

Old Testament: Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13

New Testament: Romans 1:26-27
 
Old 07-01-2013, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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The shellfish claim needs to be addressed. Got this from another source:

"It's A Sin To Eat Shellfish"

While it's true that in the Old Testament we find several passages that relate to being forbidden to eat shellfish, it is a good idea to study the scriptures to fully understand everything and rightly divide the World (2 Timothy 2:15)

In the Old Testament they were under the Law and in the New Testament they were under what we are still under which is Grace. (Romans 6:14 Chris fulfilled the Law therefore putting us under Grace (Romans 10:4, Romans 6:14). Along with this change from the Law to Grace, God also commanded that we are now permitted to eat the things that were considered unclean under the Law (Acts 10:11-15).

So why do we still say the act of homosexuality is a sin if we are under Grace?

While some things under the Old Law changed (eating shrimp) during the transition from Law to Grace, homosexuality is one of the things that you can find being taught against in both places. So while we are now permitted to eat shrimp, we are still forbidden to commit acts of homosexuality.

Old Testament: Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13

New Testament: Romans 1:26-27
And where was Paul when he wrote that letter?
What were the pagan religious practices in that area during that time?
What word was used by Paul that means homosexual in the original Greek language?
Why didn't Paul use the word that was already being used in Greek for homosexual, and instead made up a new word?

Context.
 
Old 07-01-2013, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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And where was Paul when he wrote that letter?
What were the pagan religious practices in that area during that time?
What word was used by Paul that means homosexual in the original Greek language?
Why didn't Paul use the word that was already being used in Greek for homosexual, and instead made up a new word?

Context.
Your refusal to accept what is obvious is astounding. As is your deflection. The point is that eating shellfish did become acceptable, which was the point of my post.
 
Old 07-01-2013, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Your refusal to accept what is obvious is astounding. As is your deflection. The point is that eating shellfish did become acceptable, which was the point of my post.
And homosexuals in a committed relationship are not mentioned in the bible.
Doesn't matter anyways, since we do not base our laws on your religion.
 
Old 07-01-2013, 04:09 PM
 
Location: USA
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why was it banned under Soviet Russia?
Because Russia will do the opposite of what ever we do. Unfortunately, I'm sure this will lead to physical assaults on Gay people there. Barbaric countries including Russia and many Muslim Countires should not even have 'Most favored trading status' in my opinion based on the treatment of their Gay population amongst other things.

That being said the continued view attacking people who don't support every Gay issue in the world is ridiculas. The continued attack on 'All Christians' is ridiculus. You know there are plenty of Gay and Lesbian Christians and Ministers. If you say anything that would indicate you are uncomfortable with Homosexuality you are labeled Homophobic. You know you can be uncomfortable with homosexuality and still support a Gay persons rights. Same as many Homosexuals thinking straight sex is gross, there are many Heteros that feel the same about Gay or Lesbian sex.

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Old 07-01-2013, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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And homosexuals in a committed relationship are not mentioned in the bible.
Doesn't matter anyways, since we do not base our laws on your religion.
Are you serious?

Homosexuals/homosexual acts are strictly forbidden in the Bible! The lengths you go to sometimes is amazing!
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