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Shouldn't we have seen some evidence of having been punched on Martin? Is there anything on Martin to suggest that Zimmerman punched him?
Physical contact does not have to be a punch, Zimmerman could have just grabbed Martin on the shoulder, patted his back, whatever; or Zimmerman could have been perceived as threatening and about to initiate physical harm to Martin that would solicit a physical response from Martin.
But there is no evidence of any of it, that is why i am wondering what evidence the state is actually presenting that shows Zimmerman is guilty; none so far in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Bhaalspawn
Of course not, but you missed the point. It suggests that Martin wanted to find and confront and fight Zimmerman. Otherwise he could have just returned to watching the NBA All-Stars game and enjoyed his iced tea and Skittles.
In other words, Zimmerman and Martin are basically on equal ground as far as who was the pursuer and who started the physical confrontation. That's why I like to use my hypothetical of what a conversation between Martin and NEN might have sounded like:
For trial purposes, there is no law stating Martin had to do anything, so it is not relevant in my opinion.
My opinion is that the only relevant thing that exists is who initated the physical contact, everything else is BS.
...Which makes you wonder how much money and prosecutorial resources were spent to get a conviction for a case where the police and prosecutors initially concluded that they did not have a case. The State bent over backwards to get a conviction as a result of racial and political pressure and perhaps fear of a black riot.
Gee, which side do you think had more money at their exposal? defense or prosecution?
He questioned him again. I am noticing that some feed is faster than others. But, I knew you'd want to read that little tidbit of information once more time. lol
Why wouldn't I? They did a horrible job with the evidence. It was damaged. He's only repeating what was already established.
You were stating that he shouldn't be carrying while on "Watch" and I was pointing out that he wasn't on "Watch".
That is part of the reason he is on trial...So many issues....Not even on watch, yet he drives around following a teen for several blocks, then persues him on foot al the while w/ a loaded weapon....
George is being held accountable for his actions, including those of killing an unarmed Trayvon Martin.
Give me a break. You think Trayvon could not outrun Zimmerman with ease? Also, Dee Dee testified that Trayvon had gotten home with no sign of Zimmerman near him. The evidence shows that Trayvon could have entered the house but instead went looking for Zimmerman (and probably not for the purpose of sharing his iced tea and Skittles).
Here we go again. Rachel never said he made it home. She said he was near it.
And if he didn't do any testing the DA would be lamenting that fact. This DA is doing his level best to resuscitate his case, not doing so well but give him kudos for trying.
Now back to the sympathy game with trying to establish T.M. "might" have felt pain. So what? It's sad but has nothing to do with what happened.
But George's pain from his non-severe injuries --- that pains important, right? You think a gunshot to the chest is not going to hurt?
Think Mom was napping....
The Deadly Force expert??
EDIT: The meeting w/ Trayvons folks. Trying to impeach Tracy Martin.....He stated yesterday that he had played the tape many times at that meeting.
Why would they have recorded the family listening to the tape....George wasn't even arrested yet.
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