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Old 07-09-2013, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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You don't believe even this?: Zimmerman brought on the incident with his actions, and an innocent teenager lost his life as a result. There is no way Trayvon would have tangled with Zimmerman or died that night without Zimmerman initiating this whole thing, and resorting to deadly force.

You really think that without any provocation, Trayvon would have simply attacked Zimmerman?

You really think it's fair to bring a gun to a fist fight with an unarmed 17-year-old boy who was not doing anything wrong until you bothered him?
I believe that Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman. I believe that false bravado (and a impulsive, dumb decision) of a testosterone filled 17 year old who was probably trying to show off to a chick on the phone caused his own death by beating the crap out of someone with a concealed weapon. I also believe TM made a grab for the gun - and that's why GZ shot him.

Let's say there was security camera footage of GZ walking around with his gun drawn, I'd change my opinion.

You on the other hand, would not. What does that tell you?

 
Old 07-09-2013, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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her.
No wonder!
 
Old 07-09-2013, 11:02 AM
 
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Do YOU really believe that someone with the ability and opportunity to flee, who turns and attacks someone following him is not guilty of at least doing something stupid?
Perhaps, but he was a 17-year-old boy. You can't expect him to keep a cool head or make the perfect decision, whereas Zimmerman was a grown man 11 years his senior. The onus was on Zimmerman to act wisely since he initiated this whole thing, and was armed. You're not even supposed to have a gun on you when doing Neighborhood Watch.
 
Old 07-09-2013, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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I just can not in my wildest imagination see how he can be found guilty. And I can't understand how some on these boards can think he will be. It shocks me so many had determined Z guilt prior to the start of the trial. Yes, my guess, is most either anti gun supporters or played the race game and thought they would win.
I think he should be found not guilty.

But I'm not sure he will be. The Casey Anthony jury proved that you just never know.
 
Old 07-09-2013, 11:03 AM
 
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Dr. Boa tried to make four inches disappear off of Trayvon's height. Fail.
The coroner's report showed that Trayvon was 5'11" ---you know, the guy who measured the dead body.
 
Old 07-09-2013, 11:05 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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BS...he measured him when he came in. He didn't kniw he was going to have to testify when he did it. A man is actually taller laying down than standing. Dr. Bao did not record his height as less. What would he have to gain by doing that at the time. He was just the ME.
So you're saying the M.E. would have done a correct autopsy had he known he'd have to go to court? If that's true he needs to be replaced with someone more diligent.
 
Old 07-09-2013, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Cops do arrest people for having "Burglery Tools"

... and Trayvon was no Carpenter.

It's "burglary," and please provide a link showing that Trayvon Martin had never taken Building Trades or
an Automotive Class. Either would be a valid reason for him, considering his interest in aeronautics. A quick glance at a grammar book would clarify the use of capital letters. And people thought that Rachel's English skills aren't up to par.
 
Old 07-09-2013, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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Perhaps, but he was a 17-year-old boy. You can't expect him to keep a cool head or make the perfect decision, whereas Zimmerman was a grown man 11 years his senior. The onus was on Zimmerman to act wisely since he initiated this whole thing, and was armed. You're not even supposed to have a gun on you when doing Neighborhood Watch.
You are making a false assumption that GZ knew the other guy, who was at least several inches taller than him was only 17. He had no way of knowing. You lose all your excuses when you attack someone with potentially deadly force. Nothing illegal had occurred up until the first blow. Once you take that step, whatever happens becomes your responsibility, not the other party's.
 
Old 07-09-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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The coroner's report showed that Trayvon was 5'11" ---you know, the guy who measured the dead body.
Some of these people are so bent on making him out to be a big, bad, feral thug who was angry, high and looking for trouble. It's sick and these people must have never done one wrong thing as teenagers.
 
Old 07-09-2013, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Pa
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It would seem to me the only weapon that was "unsafe" that night were the fists belonging to T.M..
LOL if you say so. Me personally I wouldn't own such a gun let alone carry one. Then again I seldom carry, never felt the need.
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