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Old 07-08-2013, 08:17 AM
 
Location: FL
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Bernie is shaper today than he has been.
It's about time.

 
Old 07-08-2013, 08:18 AM
 
Location: DFW
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I do get it. Just to clarify for you.........My point is...many jurors won't. Jurors may think having one in the chamber shows intent to shoot someone....
Hopefully if we all get it, the jury will also.

That's why they have him on the stand to explain "Standard Procedure" for anyone who carries a gun whether it's LE or a citizen.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 08:22 AM
 
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I thought TM's reputation could not be brought in only during Opening Statements.
There are conditions will allow evidence of reputation/character to come into evidence, otherwise it's not allowed.

90.404 Character evidence; when admissible.--
(1) CHARACTER EVIDENCE GENERALLY.--Evidence of a person's character or a trait of character is inadmissible to prove action in conformity with it on a particular occasion, except:
(a) Character of accused.--Evidence of a pertinent trait of character offered by an accused, or by the prosecution to rebut the trait.
(b) Character of victim.--
1. Except as provided in s. 794.022, evidence of a pertinent trait of character of the victim of the crime offered by an accused, or by the prosecution to rebut the trait; or
2. Evidence of a character trait of peacefulness of the victim offered by the prosecution in a homicide case to rebut evidence that the victim was the aggressor.



Chapter 90 - EVIDENCE CODE :: Florida EVIDENCE :: 2005 Florida Code :: Florida Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia
 
Old 07-08-2013, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Geri Ruso. Digital Risk. Another mortgage person.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 08:25 AM
 
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Was their a point to BDLR’s cross-examination? I for the life of me cannot understand why he would want to emphasize the restraint Zimmerman exercised in firing only one shot and then holstering his firearm. Hardly evidences hatred or ill-will
Because George has said in different interviews depending on which version...he did holster, and he didn't holster....That could be why.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 08:26 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Because Geroge has said in different interviews depending on which version...he did holster, and he didn't holster....That could be why.
When the cops came, he raised his arm and showed them the holstered weapon.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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Was their a point to BDLR’s cross-examination? I for the life of me cannot understand why he would want to emphasize the restraint Zimmerman exercised in firing only one shot and then holstering his firearm. Hardly evidences hatred or ill-will
Zimmerman claimed in his statements/videos that he did not know whether or not he had hit Martin when he shot and that he thought Martin was still alive, therefore, he jumped on Martin's body and held down his arms. The testimony his friend gave was that they discussed extensively that it is important to shoot until you knew the person was dead or completely incapacitated. Would that indicate that George may have had reason to believe that he had hit TM with the gunshot but needed some excuse to have been seen on top of Martin and having turned him over after he shot him?
 
Old 07-08-2013, 08:30 AM
 
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Playing 911 call again. Just doesn't make sense to me that TM would be screaming for that long of time if GZ was pointing a gun at him. And also that GZ is the one with the marks of an altercation.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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I do get it. Just to clarify for you.........My point is...many jurors won't. Jurors may think having one in the chamber shows intent to shoot someone....
Really? I don't.

I think it's been made quite clear that it's typical & normal to carry a gun this way.

I'm pretty positive that the women jurors are smart enough to understand it as well.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 08:31 AM
 
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Zimmerman claimed in his statements/videos that he did not know whether or not he had hit Martin when he shot and that he thought Martin was still alive, therefore, he jumped on Martin's body and held down his arms. The testimony his friend gave was that they discussed extensively that it is important to shoot until you knew the person was dead or completely incapacitated. Would that indicate that George may have had reason to believe that he had hit TM with the gunshot but needed some excuse to have been seen on top of Martin and having turned him over after he shot him?
Talking about it and being in the situation is a whole different scenario.
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